OFFICIAL KLITSCHKO vs POVETKIN thread

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Puritty and Brewster

 

Really? He quit tough there? Did he do much clinching?

 

brewster and to a lesser extent puritty

 

He was clinching in dem fights??? Was anyone counting back then or is that a modern phenomenon

"Hey guys, I got this rully cool idea, we know this white bitch Povetkin isn't going to get done what our black hopes needed to do, so lets do this...lets not count how many times BHOP clinches or fouls, or how often Ward does it, lets not conduct any historical analysis of holding done by other guys like Ali or Lewis, what we will do is ignore how Wlad has a better hook than Roy Jones or Flid, we will count all the clinches, decide he is to blame for all of them, and knowing that the vast majority of our country are THICK FUCKERS, we will vomit the clinch figure like it was a piece of serious data, and that's how we will EXPOSE THIS GUY. Then we will go and urinate on a Russian flag. Hell yeah".

 

Just what is Doug Fischer? I cannot figure him out? Was he beaten by his white mom and forced to drink bleach? He seems to have a deep rooted loathing. Remember that accusation about stuff on the gloves back in 2000??? Jesus Christ that is 13 years ago now, just over 13 years ago. What a fucking long time to be fucked in the ass over this HW thing. Because thats how the guy must feel. I guess basketball never had it so good.

 

WHO NEXT?????

 

Are you seriously suggesting Wlad is not well received because he is white?

 

wald pussy is near and dear the corazon of cryrish mcBigot. I find the guy dull. An eyesore. Dont watch him

 

I dont watch heavyweights in any combat sport, or at least in limited capacity...usually only top level fighters, and no one in boxing since Lennox.

I turned it on earlier but they were just wrestling around the ring and I care not to watch poor man's Greco-Roman bouts with giant gloves on and no actual throws.

 

Nah, not really. He's not well received for a plethora of reasons, none of which are particularly dominant in the equation.

 

I actually only take an interest in the guy to the extent that he does not lose. Apart from that, I am not pushed, he has served his purpose by now.

 

Horrible. Wlad just gets worse as he gets older. I really miss the guy who went balls to the wall against Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders, even if it was to his detriment.

This is just horrid. He makes Johnny Ruizski watchable by comparison.

Oh, and Irish..........Fuck you!

 

woad pussy doesn't hold, he just leans on his opponent once every round or two.

What looks like woad pussy desperately clinging onto his opponent for dear life, like a frightened, homosexual octopus - is actually just woad feinting.

 

Jesus wept, forget the holding. No mention of the 4500 headlocks he instigated on Povetkin?

Nice legacy Emanuel "That's Exactly What I Thought Would Happen" Steward. :shit:


Where's Jay Nady when you need him?

 

not sure what's more disgusting, the way wald pussy fights or the way this bigoted moron Irish makes excuses for him being a giant vagina solely because he's white

 

Not at all.

I have Wlad 5 out of 10 for last nights fight.

He gets 10 for the handspeed, the skill, the killer left, the balance, the movement, you name it.

He gets -5 for the leaning and not letting his hands go when he had reduced his man to a shell with those lefts.

I said before, time and again, he should have retired after he retired Haye. He's too good for these clowns, he's getting bored, he's just doing it for money and should basically pack it in.

After the 5th, Povetkin was just boring in with the head down to avoid the left, then clinging on. I am going to keep repeating that because that is what was happening.

You won't ever see another HW of those dimensions who leads with the left hook so often and is so destructive with it.

 

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Show me one fight where Ruiz threw 400 punches and dehumanized a guy as good as Povetkin?

"Ruizki".....what a stupid thing to say. Did you think it was clever.

You had no sympathy for him when he fought as he did with Brewster, so lets have les of this bullshit about how you miss it.

 

As a big Klitshko apologist I have to say that this was a horrible fight and Wlad deserves shitload of criticism, as does Pabon. Often people complain too much about his clinching tactics since big guys do easily get tangled up with each other and all clinching is not prohibited.

However, here Klitshko held way too much so that it clearly changed the outcome of the fight. Klitshko clearly crossed the line of excessive holding and Povetkin didn't have a chance to follow his strategy.

Klitshko of course takes advantage of the lazy refereeing and beating the #1 contender by fifteen points is impressive but the bout left a very bad taste and I am willing to add an asterisk to this result. Rules must be followed more strictly than this, if we want to call this boxing- Wlad should have lost at least two points, perhaps then he would have fought even a little bit. And what is the most sad part is, had he actually traded, he would have won by KO in six or less

 

Do you think this post by a big wald pussy fan might make Irish rethink his position? A tiny bit perhaps?

 

Povetkin was down as early as the 2nd round. Its obvious he had no answer to the left. So that was the fight right there.

He held like fuck when he was hurt, so it could have been waved off in the 7th.

He had no answer to the left other than to bend over and bore in. That says as much about the left hand as it does anything.

This is the sawdust on the floor that is being used to cast aspersions on the quality of the carpentry, nothing more.

Floyds throat bar, Hopkins collective bullshit, bargaining power, functional weight advantages, Wardoctopus......:wack:

Let's face it, the real beef here is that this was held out in Russia and there was nothing in it for HBO. They are being sidelined now. Its all slipping away...they would be best advised to go to England and hook up with the fighters there, get some sort of an alliance going and see if they can bulwark the nextgen out of the East.

 

I already said I gave Wlad 5 out of 10.

I disagree with Ugots position that the "leaning" changed the course of the fight. Povetkin was cleaned out by left hooks from the very beginning and was lucky to get out of the 2nd, then 7th rounds. The left wrecked him all night.

He was never in the fucking fight and fought poorly, not letting his hands go at all, being kept off balance and being forced to eat the left.

If he had , ironically, not held in the 7th, that would have been the fight right there.

 

wald pussy held continuously, round after round, even when there was really no need for it. You're the only one who doesn't see it. The holding was bad even by wald pussy standards - hence Ugo's post.

 

wald pussy holding possibly even helped Povvles, as he could have eaten more leather if woad did more punching and less holding. But make no mistake, the utterly excessive holding DID change the course of the fight.

Had the rules been enforced properly, it's a different fight, and Alexander would have had a much better opportunity to mount his own offense. Would he have won? Probably not, but he would have had a much better chance.

 

There was too much leaning, of course. I never denied it.

Wlad should have annihilated him in the 8th.

Wlad should maybe have ended it in the 3rd even.

Those are valid criticisms.

What I hate is the constant "Oh, it was ONLY HOLDING" bullshit.

 

If Povetkin had opened up in the 7th instead of holding he would have gotten laid out. That left hand could not miss. I think Wlad might have landed 3 rights all night. Watch Klitschko throw a 1-2. What happens? Povetkin bends over and rushes in and grabs. Then Wlad says, fine, I'll just lean down on you. :dunno:

 

I don't quite see your point. In the first round Wlad held several times. In the second he did down Povetkin, but Povetkin jumped right up and was ready to fight on, and Wlad held more.

I am not denying (and I don't think anyone is) that Wlad won easily and by a countrymile and since the ref let him fight that way he took advantage. My point is that the ref SHOULD have intervened MUCH more, IMO already in the first round.

Povetkin didn't let his hands go because Wlad HELD all the time. Sure, Povetkin could have tried to attack from outside but it is a bad plan against an opponent with so much more reach. Povetkin should have had a right to also FIGHT INSIDE, and that right was removed from him by the crappy refereeing

 

Not Only That, You & Ugo are European Posters, yet Irish Persists w/this IMAGINARY Agenda the U.S. & HBO Supposedly Have...

If Wlad SHAT in the Middle of the Ring & WIPED w/his Left, Irish would Wax Poetic about the "Left Hand Wizardry"...




REED:hammert:

 

Povetkin never tried to fight inside. An awful lot of Povetkins "Inside" game was derived from merely not wanting to be on the outside getting hit. He got inside to avoid being hit, rather than doing anything else.

Show me ONE instance where he flailed madly on the inside trying to generate some room??

Wlad can't ever win, I am sure of that much.

 

AND STILLLL................:bears: