Official Verdicts U REFUSE to Accept...

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  1. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

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    I saw it..Teddy Atlas bout lost his mind when the cards was read lol

    IMO that was the worst decision I ever seen in boxing.
     
  2. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'll only comment on fights I've actually scored myself, and of those, Taylor-Hopkins II is one where I really don't see how Taylor won.

    Lewis-Holyfield I is an obvious choice.

    And I must be one of hte only ones who actually didn't have much of a problem with the Byrd-Oquendo decision.
     
  3. D MAN

    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I totally agree, Byrd over Oquendo was one of the most truly BS decisions I have ever witnessed, right up there with Lewis - Holy I, Augustus - Burton (possibly the single worst ever on a TV fight), Demetrius - Forbes (I think this is the one I'm thinking of??).

    Fights like Tito - Oscar, Holy - Bowe II i don't think are even in the same league, these are simply close fights that probably didn't go the right way. I am talking about fights that were not even close.
     
  4. meetthefeebles

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    Watson won the first fight comfortably IMO, and was absolutely clowning Eubanks the second time. Eubanks won both yet won maybe seven or eight rounds and 25 seconds over 23 rounds.

    Neither fight sits well with me, either.

    MTF
     
  5. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Damn, great catch on D-Hop/Forbes. I can't believe I forgot that one. A robbery is one thing, but to have Forbes only winning 2 and 3 rounds on the cards is what made it all the more worse.

    Penalosa got screwed against Ponce de Leon on that same card. Wasn't bad as Hopkins-Forbes though (unless you ask Donnybrook).
     
  6. broadwayjoe

    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    I hope you are kidding. I especially liked Judah's wobbly-legged fall after getting up from the knockdown. There was nothing wrong with that stoppage.
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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  8. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

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    True, Montell did a Santana act, but Roy obviously deserved to be DQ for hitting a guy that already had a knee on the canvas. I had no problem with that. Neither with Golota's stupid self-destruction in a fight he was easily winning. The ref had warned him already about the low blows and did it again. I was extremely disappointed with the result (Bowe kept his title), but Golota obviously deserved to be DQ.

    On other matches: Whitaker vs Chavez draw is THE greatest travesty in the history of the sport.

    DeLa Hoya vs Whitaker. Another highway robbery. Even Oscar couldn't handle his 'victory' and post fight was talking about getting a rematch. He knew and we all knew he got a gift.

    Muhammad Ali vs Jimmy Young. Young's corner and his family were jumping up and down at the end of the fight. Ali and his corner looked like sure losers. Even the tv commentators were talking about the end of the Ali reign. Decision announced: Ali won. Lots of boo's and cry from young's corner. Ali, hand raised, couldn't even crack a smile.

    Guadalupe Pintor vs Carlos Zarate. Pintor did not won more than two rounds, but got the decision anyway. When he was declared the winner he had a puzzled, "I-can't-believe-it" look look in his face. No one that saw that fight gave it to Pintor. Too bad since Zarate was so disgusted he retired after that terrible decision.

    Juan Laporte vs Eusebio Pedroza. Pedroza retained his title via a foulfest unfair decision. Laporte did enough to win and Pedroza did enough to be DQ, but neither happened. The ref was so partialized to not penalize Pedroza for constant low blows, backhand punches, headbutts and elbows to the face (in one slow motion round highlight it was shown how Pedroza hit Laporte three consecutive times with the elbow in a corner and the ref standing there like an idiot doing nothing). In my book that was one of the worst decisions ever.
     
  9. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I thought Pedroza won enough rounds to take the decision, as LaPorte faded after a fast start and got owned on the inside by Pedroza in the latter half of the fight.

    But I don't think it should've gone to the cards anyway, as I felt LaPorte should've won by DQ.
     
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  10. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

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    That was the first boxing match I ever seen when a fighter wins a fight hitting nothing but air.Whitaker schooled Oscar big time!!
     
  11. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Great thread.

    DLH/Tito: I will never accept it. Tito lost and lost badly. It is not even debateable among people who understand boxing.

    Holyfield/Lewis 1: honestly, it might be the worst decision ever. Holyfield lost 9 or 10 rounds or he won 2 or 3 tops. However, you like to describe it.

    Jones/Clay: No way Ali/Clay won this fight. If you have a shread of objectivity, this is true.

    Winky/Vargas;Winky/Taylor: Winky won both with ease.

    Casapeor/Santa Cruz: Easily a top 5 worst decision ever.
     
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    Hardest punches of the fight @ 9:40 of this clip

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  13. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I have to say. I am not a DLH fan, but anyone who thinks pEA won or was robbed should not score a fight. I applaud the judges for not giving the fight to a guy who refused to fight and made stupid faces at his willing opponent. Not only that, Oscar landed more power shots. Pea was in super coward mode that night. I refuse to accept your views on this, lol.


    Another, is anyone that says Quartey/DLH was a fight they refuse to accept is a big fucking baby. I thought Quartey won by 1 or 2 points. It WAS a close fight. The judges gave it to DLH. It was not a robbery.

    Speaking of which, I had Forrest/Quartey a draw. Some of you are just weak minded. I don't say this as an insult. I watched this fight with Matchup, Winner by choke and Jaws and I was counter commenting the entire match. HBO was blowing Quartey. It was a close fight. I thought with the penalties Vernon had lost it. It was not a robbery.
     
  14. TKO

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    :lol:

    I'm surprised it took that long. Of course I'm kidding Zab was a mess doing the spaghetti dance.
     
  15. broadwayjoe

    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    I just wanted to check 'cause there actually have been some folks who have complained about the stoppage and try to label it "controversial". :lol:

    Note to Zab: The next time you want to convince a ref you are ok after being knocked down, you might want to avoid staggering drunken-leggedly before falling on your face.
     
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    :lol:

    that was so funny, I like to watch the Zab dance every now and again for good old giggle.
     
  17. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    agREED 100% on both of these. I had Ike winning 114-113 over Oscar but could easily see Oscar winning by the same score.

    Forrest/Quartey is probably the most exaggerated "robbery" in recent memory. I had no problem with Forrest winning, other than one judge having him up 7 rounds to 3. Same with the Ouma-Powell fight that preceded it - Ouma clearly won, but the judges were all over the place in the fight (one judge had it a shutout!)

    I have mixed emotions on this. It's another fight where even if the right guy won, the margin of victory suggested by the judges is unforgivable.

    That said, I have a hard time scoring the fight for Oscar. "Coward" or not, Whitaker made Oscar look foolish for most of the night.
     
  18. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Uuuuuuh, when 1 Guy CLEARLY Wins 6 Rounds (MINIMUM) of a 10 Rounder, he WON the Fight...PERIOD...

    REED STILL has his Round by Round Account of that Bout...U Know, the 1 that FORCED YOU into ADMITTING "The Fight was CLOSER than I Remembered" ???...

    If U'd REALLY Like to Revisit that Typewritten Beatdown, just let REED Know...Otherwise, Continue TROLLING...



    REED:mj:
     
  19. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Are you a pathological liar? I was never beaten down on that or any issue by you. Anyway, did you miss the point where I said "It was closer than I thought, but Jones still clearly won


    Do some research? Some Ali nuthuggers think he lost that fight. It isn't me "trolling."
     
  20. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Are you a pathological liar? I was never beaten down on that or any issue by you. Anyway, did you miss the point where I said "It was closer than I thought, but Jones still clearly won


    Do some research? Some Ali nuthuggers think he lost that fight. It isn't me "trolling."
     
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    Breeze WBC Champion

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    Forrest/Quartey

    Hopkins/Taylor2

    Whitaker/Chavez
     
  22. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Ali CLEARLY Won Rounds 2, 3, 5, 7, 8 & 10...The Fight Itself Only Went 10 Rounds, DUNCE...

    DO the Fucking Math, Present YOUR Round by Round or SHUTthefuckUP...


    REED:kidcool:
     
  23. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I already did that a boxingtime after you said I never saw the fight. I described all the action, the commenttors and then a rbr. You then left Boxingtime from the beating I gave you. So, I then signed up for this site and called you out and posted it here. Just take your beating like a man.

    1. I proved I saw it
    2. I scored a detailed round by round
    3. I came here to show it to you.
     
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    Ibeatahoochie's win over Tua:fightme:
     
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    I don't particularly accept any official results any more. Im sick of the whole concept of 3 fat, incompetent, corrupt fucks telling US, who as a whole are far more qualified to make up our own minds, especially collectively, who won a damn fight. Who the fuck are they that their interpretation of the reality that we just witnessed defines it for me? Fuck em. I judge a fighters place in history based on my own score cards.
     
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  27. Panchyprsss

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    Julio Cesar Chavez bullshit technical decision victory over Frankie Randall. The point deduction was bullshit too.
     
  28. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I agree. In my opinion, Chavez's run as an elite fighter was over. He flat out quit in that fight. He and all his dick loving fans thought he lost to Randall because Chavez didn't train. Chavez trained for the rematch and was getting beaten up so he quit like a bitch once the opportunity arose.
     
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  30. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Adding to the list of bullshit decisions.... Spaddy-Dorin. Bullshit draw! Dorin CLEARLY won that fight.

    I'm so disappointed we never got to see Spaddy get KTFO. If theres any fighter that ever deserved to go out Du Koo Kim style... its Spaddy.
     

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