Okay F*ck it once and for all rate Windmill Wilder's power

Morrison has a case over Wilder as a puncher. Or at least on par.

Briggs does not. Shannon Briggs was not a special puncher.

Still not gonna compare Wilder with Lewis, cause it's not like Helenius would have lasted a round with Lewis.

But yes, as a pure hitter Wilder is top 10 in the division's history.

 

Here is my problem with this take.

After May 1990, the only guy Lewis knocked out inside a round was shit-panted Andrew Golota.

I realize that the amount of first-round KOs isn't a reliable indicator of power. However, you would think that since Lewis was much more skilled than Wilder, he would have several quick KOs as well, if he were in a different league as a puncher too.

 

My problem with that take is that even an intimidated Golota is miles better than total bums like Breazele and Helenius.

Rachman was better than anyone Wilder has beaten as well.

Lewis lifted Frans Botha OFF the canvas with the final right hand he hit him with.

No, I don't put Wilder on par as a puncher, sorry.

 

All that fight last night told me is that I desperately wanna see Wilder land the big right hand against the ponderous Joyce

 

Helenius was kod by gerald Washington and some other guy named duhaupas.

 

Yeah. Wilder can punch, but there is absolutely nothing impressive about this.

 

Yes, everyone knows and knew Helenius was no test.

What was impressive was the WAY Wilder collected him. Effortless right, without full extension while moving back. Several people can KO Helenius, but not like that.

Same with Lewis vs Botha. Knocking out Botha wasn't that impressive. To do it that way was mighty impressive

 

Thing is, Lewis, as far as I remember, never slept anyone except from Grant, which was a beatdown more than a 1 punch thing. The closest he came then is Rahman II but he still tried to get up before 10. Botha's a poor example to be honest as it was a 3 punch combo and even then, Botha got up and wanted to continue

This is why I'm changing my take on Wilder's power. Not that he's knocking bums, but that he knocks them cold with 1 punch in a regular basis. This is very rare, no matter the competition.

Once again, I don't rate Wilder highly and good fighters would be able to smother his power or avoid those telegraphed haymakers imo. But his power is frightening

 

Yeah, Lennox has several fights where he changed the bout with single shots. Ruddock, Bruno, Grant, Butler etc. And obviously that list is far more impressive than Wilder's

However, as Azazel pointed out, Lennox hardly took the lights out from anyone, not even the scrubs he faced, much less with single bombs.

It is no knock against him, since lights out KOs are very rare. Wilder seems to do them regularly, and that's special

 

Absolutely. The bloke is horrible, really, but he clearly punches like an absolute motherfucker.

MTF

 

Maybe it was more due to LL's style and less to do with his inability to score 1st rd one punch KO's. I always found LL's style boring. He was a safety first type of fighter that preferred to use his jab and range to safely break down his opponents. Wilder has a low boxing IQ and skill. You'd hardly see him take the first few rds to feel out his opponents like Lewis. Again different styles. I try not to get bamboozled by 1st rd knockout streaks. Before getting exposed Berlanga's punching power was overrated and thought of by some people as a threat to Canelo and Benebidez . The true measurement of power is not based on how many tomato cans you can knockout on the first round. It's how well your power carries over vs ELITE fighters with respectable chins. Wilder knocking out Hellanius tells nothing new unfortunately. Still think Lewis punched harder.

 

And let's also rebember that he also nearly one punch koed tyson fury (more than a few refs.would have stopped that fight). So this whole "his power only works against bums" argument is pretty much bs

 

But that was never the argument. The argument was is he a bigger puncher than Lewis? So i thought. He may be a bigger puncher than Lewis but if we go by resume Lewis has knocked out better opponents. Fighters with proven chins and tough guys. I cant say the same for Wilder.

 

Helenius is a durable fellow. Only the ilk of el gallo negro and DUHAUPAS have touched him

 

Mentality. Lewis never had a mentality for 1st round kos..

On Manny Stewards death certificate the contributing cause of death was listed as "years of screaming at Lennox Lewis".