olympic scoring sucks

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  1. Mitchell Kane

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    Lomanchenko boxing right now. Pretty good defense. Keeps his hands high, can block punches, uses waist movement, uses footwork very nicely to get into position. Goes to the body.

    The 20 year old looks like he's got a lot of class.

    Updated: scored a nice knockdown in the fourth round. Wins 13-1. Very nice performance over 2004 bronze medalist.
     
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    Jongsub Baik looks pretty solid through 3. Strong fighter, well built, pretty sraightforward approach. Digs to the body in close, uses some lead rights, some counter rights, wings a bit. Pichai Sayoto moving a lot, but not punching very effectively.
     
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    Hrachik Javachkyan is simply outclassing his opponent. Solid orthodox counter-puncher, absolutely killing the longer, lankier Lawal who leaves himself open continuously.
     
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    Darleys Perez doing a pretty good job of blocking and then answering, shfiting and countering, catching him coming in. Short, compact punches. Talasbaev is active and wild, but he's not getting a lot through.
     
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    This open scoring system sure lends itself to some bad 3rd and 4th rounds.

    Lots of protecting of leads.
     
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    Tischenko looks like he's got some real power. Patient fighter, wide stance, applies steady pressure, doesn't give up much space - pretty good at managing distance. Not overly busy but always looking to land power punches. Keeps his hands relatively low, but pretty good timing/delivery.
     
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    Ugas is a pretty big, strong fighter. Keeps his hands high, elbows tucked in, blocks. His offense is pretty much just a jab and right hand...throws it straight. Economical. Moves forward.

    Ugas looks like he can grow a bit, Valentino looks like he's closer to topping out at this weight. He has some nice punches, and can put them together, but they're clearly not having the same effect.
     
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    Popescu moves around the perimeter, waiting for time/space to stop and throw one-two from the southpaw stance. Measuring jabs in reverse. Some sloppy punches from him, not the most fluid or coordinated athlete in the ring. Tendency to fall in after he punches. Awkward but somewhat effective. goes to the body pretty consistently. One and two punches at a time. Footwork not all that clean.

    Vargas is coming forward and making teh fight, but not doing it very well.
     
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    Sow-Pedraza isn't that aesthetically pleasing. Southpaw Sow has a very wide stance, long arms, leaving his right hand out constantly to measure, holding a lot.

    Sow was actually warned in the first round...giving Pedraza two points.

    Pedraza, orthodox, has the more deliberate style and shorter punches.

    Now Pedraza warned in the third round. He turns southpaw.

    It's a close fight, definite contrast in styles.

    Pedraza lands some short punches, some tot he body, not big punches and not getting much credit for them late.

    Sow's punching is more distinct, which tends to be favored in the scoring.

    Sow: 13-9.
     
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    Damn, Raynell Williams landed some decent shots in the second round against the frenchman and none of them counted.
     
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    I actually like the rule where if the punch is blocked, but in the Raynell Williams fight, I now relize that the rule sucks. Williams would split his opponent's guard and land the straight left over and over again....at will, but because the frenchman had his hands up, they didn't count the blow. Often times, the left went through without touching the gloves.

    If this was a pro fight, williams would have been winning fairly easy.

    Still though, the Americans don't throw enough punches.

    Williams will be a good pro one day, but it would be nice if he stayed in the amateurs longer.
     
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    Ohh. This mexican featherweight is fun. Sharp and throws with lots of power.
     
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    They robbed Beterbiev. I wonder what an athlete like Zhang feels. Does he really think he´s an olympic champion, when they are done with this scam? The guy does nothing, but hold, eat punches and rob around the floor and wins 10-2.
     
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    It looked like Vodopyanov got a pretty raw deal as well. He was tied with Kumar after four and somehow the judges had Kumar landing more punches.

    Vodo, the youngest Russian, looked inconsolable in the ring afterwards.
     
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    They had to hold a press conference to defend the scoring. But they didnt realize that there was alot of heat coming from outside of china.
     
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    I just watched the best judo match I've ever seen, but it was Olympic boxing:laughing:

    A wilder version of Vic Darchinyan named Kumar won.
     
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    Yeah, that was the worst fight I've seen in these Games by far.

    The general rules seems to be the lighter the fighters, the lighter the fighting.
     
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    Lee Oksung just wasted a lot of body shots. :lol:
     
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    I thought I was hearing things:laughing:
     
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    Why are the coaches getting kicked out and not the judges:dunno:
     
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    Alfonso Blanco Parra is an entertaining fighter from Venezuela.

    Seems like he's gotten pretty tired in the fourth, though.
     
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    Darren John Sutherland gets a fourth round stoppage, tells Jim Gray it's the pro game next.
     
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    Artayev beat Korobov in what was kind of a cat and mouse fight. Korobov appeared discouraged in the final round, looked like he was holding more and didn't do much at all down the stretch.
     
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    Shawn Estrada lost in the early session. Afterwards he said he was "just happy to be here"...repeatedly.

    The results of today's fights with Zou Shiming and Luis Yanez are online.
     
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    Uutoni-Maszcyk tied 5-5 after four rounds, and the accepted scores were even as well.

    They then have each judge press the button for who they choose to win, and Masczyk won that way. :dunno:
     
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    Watching Shiming-Oubaali, I'm thinking maybe for Shiming's fights they should change it up and score thrown punches instead of landed punches.

    Might make his fights a little more watchable.
     
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    Shiming tied it at 3 with a late flurry and then won on accepted scores.
     
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    that fight was rubbish. I can't see why shiming is the guy who has been receiving hype?
     
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    yanez is from duncanville, texas huh? I imagine that's a suburb of san antonio.
     
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    Yeah, I've seen two fights of him in these Olympics and in neither one did he look that great.

    But his style is rewarded in this system of scoring.

    He does look like a good natural athlete.
     

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