Oscar, Tito, Calzaghe & Steele Inducted at the Hall of Fame

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  1. whiskey

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    I wouldn't pick Cotto over Vargas but I agree with the bolded part. He does nothing great, but everything well.
     
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    he has a great left hook
     
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    Very good one, not great imo.
     
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    You are dead to me
     
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    that pale skin devil is right....Cotto left hook is very good....not as good as Trinidad's though....or Chavez....or Frazier....or Cuevas...or Tyson...Patterson...or..or..or..
     
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    you guys are fucking crazy. Cotto's left hook to the body was a fucking monster.


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    Who's the best fighter he's stopped? Lmao at "monster"
     
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    He looked like a bigger stronger Guerrero against Floyd in a fight he clearly lost

    I think it's weak to just pass Vargas's technical work against boxers the caliber of Quartey and Wright to a vague notion of physical talent as if he is Roy Jones winning in spite of technique... He won because he was skillful and adapted... I don't think Vargas was demonstrably more innately talented than Winky or Ike ... Who's the most technically skillful guy Cotto has ever outboxed? Slugger Shane?

    If "sneaky" means "more skillful than visual inspection or results show to be true" than Cotto is sneaky indeed
     
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    Monster left hook = Foster, Robinson, Tyson, Cuevas, Frazier, Jackson, Tito.

    Not Miguel fuckin Cotto.
     
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    Word

    Anthony is engaged in ethnocentric nuthugging of a severe degree
     
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    Jones, Curry, DLH, Leonard, Norris, Benn, Liston, the list goes on and on of hooks that shit on Cotto's.
     
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    Joe Louis... Incredible left hook
     
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    Arguello
    Olivares

    pwned
     
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    I'd rate Corrales' hook over Cotto's as well.
     
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    I should revise my quote to say he had the greatest left hook in boxing. Then your arguments would make sense
     
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    Cotto had a good hook. Def more powerful to the body than to the head. I erased the notion of him being a big puncher once he hit Judah with everything but the sink and took 11 rounds to stop him.
     
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    "monster" left hook

    Total horseshit. He has nothing even approaching that. Histrionics.
     
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    easily... no contest

    Cotto has never been a big puncher, ever... He's a solid puncher, nothing more
     
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    I guess based on your logic, Lucas Matthysse isnt a big puncher
     
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    Sometimes weird things happen as far as fighters stopping or not stopping fighters.

    Both Cotto and Lucas punch much harder than Trashkhan, yet look at their respective fights with Judah.
     
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    Lucas didn't hit Judah nearly as much times as Cotto did.

    Matty Ice is a bigger puncher than Cotto. He's definitely not as GOOD as Cotto, but he has more pop.
     
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    It's as plain as day that Cotto isn't some big banger... He never has been
     
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    It's strange you would have to point that out to boxing fans. But im guess there is some trolling going on here
     
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    After some further consideration i've concluded Cotto's left hook is superior and a harder punch than Joe Frazier's.
     
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    what, like a dude claiming Miguel Cotto is a big-time puncher?
     
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    Who said that?
     
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    I said the dude has a great left hook. His hooks to the body were crisp and strong bringing a number of his opponents down. Having a great left hook isnt the same as having the greatest left hook in all of boxing or being a one punch knock out artist.
     
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    yeah
     
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    when Illuminati and X disagreed and pointed out fighters who actually did have great left hooks, you told them they were crazy and described Cotto's hook as "a fucking monster"

    You understand what that response implies when read by a reasonably intelligent person, yes? It implies that you believe he belongs in the same strata of guys that Illu and X mentioned
     
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