Pacman sparring partner says he injected pac with roids

Since we're going down the BALCO road...until she admitted it, I defended Marion Jones. I didn't see a reason she needed to cheat. She'd been a track star since 16. In fact, she finished 4th in the 200 meters at 16 years old and made the final of the 100 meters...which meant she was eligible for the 4 x 100 meter relay but her parents didn't allow her to compete.

I figured she'd been an elite athlete all her life and didn't need to cheat...how wrong i was. With her it was more difficult to readily identify because she'd been a top tier performer all her life and didn't have a huge change in physcial appearance. At least not like Barry Bonds.

 

Hmmm Good point......

 

I still have doubts about Pacman supposed steroid use. Drugs cant make your chin any better I think. I dont know shit about drugs but can it really make you have a better punch or even punch resistance? What about Manny Pacs unlimited stamina.

Can anyone please explain.

 

^^^Well Pac's always had amazing stamina.

Whats getting people is that he's seriously hurting these bigger men. Yet it seems many are missing the point.

If a little kid hits you enough times in the face in the same spot you'll get cut eventually.

Take Manny who is blindingly fast and relentless with his punches against guys who cannot get out of the way of his shots, and you have the results.

 

How did PED's cause Mark McQuire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Manny Ramirez, and Roger Clemens so much better in their careers? I guess that's why they are called performance enhancement drugs cause they enhance ur performance! I'll Holla 5000

 

GH can increase bone thickness, especially in the jaw and cranium. That makes you take a better punch. Steroids can increase strength of neck muscles, which also makes you take a better punch.

EPO does wonders for stamina.

No he hasn't. See the first Morales fight, he was tired by the 4th round.

 

I had no idea. Thanks for explaining this.

 

I don't think there is any correlation between bone thickness and taking a good punch. Logically there should be, but there are plenty of guys with slender heads/jaws etc that can really take a shot, and likewise plenty of guys with much bulkier faces that have glass jaws.

Like Mosley in the Oscar rematch?

That's truly an exception and you know it. Even at flyweight he had great stamina.

Look at the Barrera fight, just slapped Barrera around for 11 rounds like a non stop ball of energy.

 

Testing positive or proof arising that you definitely did do steroids amounts to the same thing.

Doesn't make any difference how he was caught, bottom line is he was caught. Manny hasn't been caught.

 

Indeed there was, but the bottom line is, he's been caught and Manny hasn't.

 

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How did PED's help Bonds, Sosa, Mcguire, Manny Ramierz, and Roger Clemons? The fact of the matter is that they are called performance enhancement drugs for a reason cause they enhance peoples performances. Now they don't make non athletes turn into super stars but they will make someone who is already a world class athlete and make him a out of this world type athlete and that's what they do. I'l Holla 5000

 

Not sure what the argument is here. A bulkier face doesn't mean thicker bones, but thicker bone structure will certainly help absorb a shot better. The main reason we have a cranium is to absorb impact and protect the brain. If your cranium is thicker and denser, it's going to absorb that impact better.

Not only was that fight at a different weight, Barrera wasn't really pressing Pacquiao much.

 

It's not shots to the cranium that cause KO's, it's shots to the jaw.

You can tell when a guy has a big, heavy set jaw. But there are plenty of guys with more small, slender jaws like Pavlik, Williams etc that take a shot fine (well, before Paul got his chin cracked).

And your argument about stamina is nonsensical. That's literally the ONLY fight where his stamina hasn't looked great and you know it. He's always had excellent stamina.

Morales didn't push him either by the way, basically just outboxed him. By Morales standards, it was a patient, disciplined fight. No one really pushes Pacquiao, it's not the best gameplan against him. Well, Hatton tried ::

If we're purely talking about his stamina at 130 then, it looked absolutely fine against Larios, Solis, Barrera and Marquez, even though they were all crap performances.