Pacqiao legal team commits a fatal blunder.

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  1. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

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    Yeah if he did that I don't think the fans would ever forgive his prima donna crap...I doubt that happens, plus he'll need his PED's to beat Foreman.
     
  2. meetthefeebles

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    You may think that this argument fails, but I don't.

    Sport is entitled to regulate itself how it chooses and a Court will generally defer to the mechanisms of that sport unless they cause physical harm to the participants. Boxing has a number of regulating bodies and commissions who have mechanisms in place for testing for illegal drug use and, until now, they have not been called into question.

    Had Floyd made this request in private, Manny is unlikely to have a case against him because Pac's refusal would have been kept private and would not have likely sounded in damages. Instead his refusal was made public and negative implications have been drawn from it. These implications have an impact on Manny's ability to undertake his livelihood and have caused damage to his good name and character.

    All Manny has to do is to prove that these negative implications were foreseeable from the actions of the Mayweather's and that they have caused him tangible damage on the balance of probabilities. In my professional opinion he should be able to do both.

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  3. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    He has already passed countless drug tests. That is all the proof he needs to show his 'innocence' for the purposes of any libel lawsuit.

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  4. Fighter

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    His burden of proof that Mayweather and GBP made statements that Pacquaio was juicing will be EASY to prove.

    As far as burden of proof of his innocence or guilt, that doesn't lie with him but Mayweather and GBP. Do they have ANY evidence that Pacquaio has used PED's before? Did Pacquaio fail any drug test throughout his entire career? Or did Pacquaio looked too spectacular that ENVY came into play?
     
  5. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    I am very impressed. Did Shane Mosley use this in his defence hearing?
     
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    Why would he? He admitted use. Plus we're talking about Manny not Shane.
     
  7. meetthefeebles

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    Nah. Roy Jones did in his appeal, though...

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  8. TKO

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    That is simply not true REED.
     
  9. mikE

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    We are in complete disagreement.

    One of the defenses to a civil action is that there has been a failure to state a claim on which relief can be granted. What you are suggesting is such a claim for which a court can grant relief (asking someone to take a test knowing that if they don't take the test there will be negative implications that will cause damage to the refuser), I think is exactly not such a claim.
     
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  10. mikE

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    I haven't seen any such proof. Opinions, speculation, insinuation...that's what I have seen and that isn't enough, imo.
     
  11. bigdawg

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    Exactly! I'll Holla 5000
     
  12. Double L

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    How is this blunder, "fatal?"
     
  13. dymipepel

    dymipepel Im Banned

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    You don't think it's fatal??:notallthere:
     
  14. Irish

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    Manny Pac could die in the Court.
     
  15. dymipepel

    dymipepel Im Banned

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    Exactly. I feel slightly ashamed for human race, having to explain such simple things to Double.
     
  16. Fighter

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    And that's what Mayweather used to GET OUT of the fight....
    No PROOF thus BASELESS accusations that tried to defame Pacquaio.

    THANKS for pointing that out...
     
  17. *Z*

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    Seriously.

    I haven't posted in about two weeks and I come back to this shit. First off, fuck Floyd for demanding tests that aren't a part of the norm. Pac shouldn't be subjected to more tests than anyone else. Fuck Pac for all this lawsuit bullshit. It's just stupid. he should have just told Floyd to fuck off if he didn't want to negotiate regarding the testing.

    Now, I really don't care if Floyd and Manny ever fight. Manny is NOT a welterweight. I have no doubt that Floyd beats him, none. Floyd needs to be fighting real welterweights, not Manny.

    Mayweather vs Mosley is a fight I would much rather see anyway. Lets hope it happens.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I know you will say I am a hater and I'm taking sides, but what would your opinion be if Manny was the one making the testing demands? I don't want you to assume anything about how Mayweather would react, that doesn't matter. I'm just asking you if you would think it was fair. Neither guy has ever tested positive for ANYTHING. I mean Mayweather moved up in weight too, gone as high as 154, is he taking drugs? Can a guy not just be something special and move up in weight while not losing his best attributes?
     
  19. Double L

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    The law-suit Pacquiao filed or is going to file, that I'm sure he can withdraw at this point, will become handy during mediation.

    "I drop my law-suit, you agree to no testing within 30 days."

    The fact that PBF has never required an opponent previously to undergo such testing is damn near proof that he's doing it just to get out of the fight.

    Does anyone think this would be the first opponent PBF has faced who "may" be using PED's?
     
  20. V10

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    Like Cotto? :lol:

    You're way off here, Manny beats any Welterweight out there.

    This two are by FAAAR the best fighters in the world.
     
  21. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    In your opinion they are. In my opinion, Mosley and Mayweather both beat Manny. So I would rather see that fight. Are we going to argue opinions now? :lol:
     
  22. V10

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    Isn't that what the forum is for? :notallthere::lol:

    Mosley doesn't beat Manny, no way. Manny already destroyed a guy who beat him (Cotto). Mosley would be in hell with Manny's speed, skills and timing.
     
  23. *Z*

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    Styles my friend, styles. Even though Mosley lost to Cotto, I think his speed and oven more so his chin would win him the fight. Remember even in losing to Cotto, he was fresher down the stretch and Cotto was backing up late.
     
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    Shane would get thrashed. You insult your ancestors with opinions like this.
     

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