Pacquaio Award KING, Fighter of the decade

He;s had a very good to great career, but to suggest he has achieved as much as Pacquaio right now is ridiculous

 

Ha, I was about to say the exact same thing.

Being undefeated doesn't mean much if you don't consistently fight the best opponents in whatever weight divison you fight in.

Pacquiao has accomplished significantly more.

And it has to be said, that people need to factor in - he's not a big guy. 5'5, almost half his pro fights have been at flyweight.

Moving up to featherweight and slapping Barrera around the ring like a ragdoll was impressive, and to me, very surprising. Moving up to 140/147 and thrashing guys the way he has is downright phenomenal.

If Floyd had seeked out better challenges at 140/147 - he could well have been in the running too. Don't forget, Floyd has been at 147 for FIVE years. That's half the fucking decade right there. And at less than a year of being at welterweight, he beat Cotto, a more impressive win than any of Floyd's in the last 5 years, by a good margin.

 

The bros on here are hyping Fraudweather for obvious reasons.:: Get real. Fraudweather is a bum beating joke who barely edged a shot Oscar and lost to Castillo straight up. Undefeated my f*cking ass! He retired like a bitch for 2 years and fought little guys who came up in weight. He ain't no warrior and his crappy little record means f*ck all. He avoided Margarito, Wright, Cotto, lost to Castillo, lost to a shot old Oscar and ducked Pacman.
He's no f*cking great! Just an overrated little sh*t head!
Great fighters fight the best. It's how it's been throughout history when their careers are evaluated. Not little pussies who make up dumb f*ck excuses like "You know.....Cotto fight can't happen cause......you know.....he's up in Puerto Rico.....and I.....you know....I gotta do me!" :atu:
Fraudweather will die in May! There is no escape now!:crafty:

 

Voting wasn't even close. Pacquaio was FIGHTER of the Decade by LANDSLIDE.

 

makes sense. Pacman has done everything Fraudweather has done...only easier!
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Oh Really?

Pacquiao beat Ledwaba and got a title
he had a flyweight title before that as well but got KOed on his first defense I think
He beat barrera, impressive performance and I will given him MUCH credit for that fight but it wasn't for a title officially (still I credit him as a feathweight honorary titlist
He challenges Marquez for actual titles and gets a DRAW
He moves up and challenges Morales for titles and LOSES
beats the smaller Larios on points but not for a title
Beats Morales in rematches, impressively..but again..not for titles (and Morales had been beaten by another fighter since then).
Beat Marquez for a title..but more people think he lost that fight than won. Still he won so fair enough.
Beat David Diaz for Lightweight title. Good win..but Diaz wasn't a big name
Beat De La Hoya..GREAT WIN
Beat hatton ...good win over a man that was previously stopped by Mayweather though. But very good win.
Beat Cotto for title..GREAT WIN


Now onto Mayweather

In 1998 beat genaro Hernandez who had only lost once before...and beat him by KO for the 130 lb title
Successfully defended against Manfredy and Corrales
GREAT win over Corrales who was at the time undefeated and was recently a reigning titlist at that division himself.
moved up and beat Castillo TWICE at 135lbs for the title in that division
Moved up and beat gatti for the 140lbs title
Beat Zab Judah
and then undisputed Welter champ baldomir for titles at 147lbs
beat De La Hoya at 154lbs for the title..GREAT WIN
First man to beat hatton..GREAT WIN
First man to dominate Marquez


Objectively Floyd is better accomplished.

 

actually Pacquiao has done a lot more than Mayweather.....he beat the top 3 greatest mexican of his era MAB, Morales, Marquez at their best weight....and then went on and shitted of Mayweather greatest accomplishment by owning De La Hoya(yes he was dead in the ring) and absolutely destroying RICKY HATTON at his best weight of 140...

and then to add a cherry on top he fought and beat up a guy Mayweather never got around to fighting MIGUEL COTTO....

 

Yep, the closer I look, the more I laugh at Fraudweather's career. What a joke! :laughing:

 

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Funny how people use the alphabets when it suits them.:laughing:

Everyone knew who the man, champions were, with or without titles, with the RING belts when Pacquaio beat them.

Sly must be a member of the Mayweather FAMILY.::

 

Mayweather got to De la Hoya and to Hatton FIRST. That is important.

PLUS...he fought better versions of both men. He fought a Hatton that hidn't know what it was like to lose, much less be KOed. And he fought a fresher, hungrier more comfirtable (at the weight) De La hoya.

You forget that Floyd DOMINATED a guy that Pacman struggled badly with twice...Marquez.

 

I'm too pretty to be a member of the Mayweathe family! :kick:

 

You forget that Floyd dominated a guy that was past his best and completely out of his element at 147. Marquez is a great featherweight, he is not a welterweight. Floyd is a legit welterweight that called out and fought a feastherweight, and couldn't even KO him.

You also conveniently forget that whether he got to them first or not, Pacquiao fucking destroyed Oscar and Hatton, they looked like they didn't even belong in the same ring as him, AND after the first few rounds, basically destroyed Cotto too.

Floyd won a split decision over a still past it, part time boxer/promoter Oscar.

Floyd took 10 rounds and lost a couple of rounds to Hatton, 147 pound Hatton, the same 147 pound hatton that looked like shit against Collazo.

At Hatton's natural weight Pacquiao fucking obliterated him.

 

I'm going to give you some credit Sly, I don't think you are that stupid to truly believe that Floyd is more accomplished than Pacquiao.

 

he's just trolling

 

Yep, pretty much, like I said - even he can't believe that.

 

If that's a prerequisite then I'm a PROUD relative of the Mayweathers.::

 

yes...and no.

If Sly has proven anything over the years, its that he's a frontrunning idiot with no ability to be objective. This is just him coming out of his shell, after retiring from posting no less:doh:

 

hahaha....

I'm very objecte. Shit my objectivity is proven by how I now criticize Roy Jones for displaying a lack of heart in his fights.

Mayweather is just a very good and great fighter..exceedingly accomplished.

Pacquiao is too.

I don't see why there has to be a Mayweather camp and a Pacquiao camp....they are both proven ALL TIME GREATS. i have them both in my P4P top 10 all time.

 

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Yes Mayweather got to Hatton and DLH first and he definitely beat a better version of DLH. Of Hatton i'm not sure Ricky at 147 was always GARBAGE.. look at the Collazo fight...

Yeah Floyd Dominated Marquez at 147 POUNDS......thats even worst than DLH fighting pac at 147...

 

Hagler barely scraped past Duran at Middleweight (160lbs) when Duran started at Lightweight (135lbs). I don't see people denigrating Hagler for that.

Mayweather beating Marquez at Welterweight (147lbs) is no different....since Featherweight (126lbs) to Welterweight (147lbs) with an impressive stop at Lightweight is no different that Lightweight to Middleweight with an impressive stop at Welterweight.

In fact if anything...aside from the fact that mayweather did it far more easily....Mayweather's performance is still better relative to hagler's since Hagler was ALWAYS a middleweight but Mayweather started out at 130lbs..and so is naturally not that much bigger than Marquez.

So.........

if you'e going to criticze Mayweather for that I better see you (and everyone else on that tip) do the same thing for Hagler defending his championship against Duran.

 

The Hagler-Duran scores were bullshit. Hagler won 10 rounds. Also, Duran was only 100 times better than JMM.

 

Shut the f*ck up, fagstaff! Your pussy hero is a f*cking ducking chicken sh*t bitch! He ducked Margarito, Wright, Cotto, Pacman, lost to Castillo and barely scraped by a completely shot part-time boxer in Oscar.:::laughing:
Now his death is coming in the hands of Sugar Shane! The end of Floyd is near!!!!

 

You've lost your mind. You're comparing Marquez to Duran?

Not only was Duran much, much better than Marquez, but he was one of only a handful of fighters in boxing history that proved he could be effective a few weight classes above his natural weight.

He beat a PEAK Leonard, and in his fight before hagler he beat the absolute fuck out of undefeated Davey Moore, a sadistic beating. He proved that when he felt like it, he was pretty fucking good at 147/154 and even 160.

What did Marquez prove at 140 or even 147? Fuck all that's what, he was out of his element.

 

Subjectively yes...

Duran is a legend like Robinson and Pep and one of the most beloved fighters in history and Marquez is a contemporary fighter.

But Objectively..

Marquez is a modern great and has proved himself in fights with Barrera, pacquiao, Casamayor, and Diaz.

Even if Duran is the better fighter..it's not to the point where one is in a completely different class.

but since we wont agree with this let's just say that how good we think the smaller fighter is is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!!!

the POINT of the matter is...mayweather is denigrated for fighting a great fighters that's in two (original) divisions greater than he first weight class. hagler did the motherfucking same thing!

Stop splitting hairs based upon whether you think Duran is better than marquez or not. That's bullshit arguing based upon pure subjective bias.....

 

Hey cuntstaff, which part of "Marquez moved up 2 weight classes to fight a Mayweather who came in over the limit" does your dumb f*ck ass not understand?
Marquez had no business fighting that high up. The fight was a f*cking joke! Stop defending your dipsh*t hero, fagstaff! He's a chicken motherf*cker and is going to be brutally exposed by Sugar Shane!

 

We'll see...

 

If Marquez had just beat the living shit out of a young undefeated fighter at 140 or 147 you'd have a point, but he'd only just moved up to lightweight, struggled with Juan Diaz and old arse Casamayor, then moved up TWO straight divisions to fight Floyd, from 135 to 147, having only been at lightweight for a year.

The two situations aren't even comparable, only you would be retarded enough to try ::

 

Are you kidding me? It's a fucking fact that Duran was a better fighter than Marquez. Are you retarded? There's no hair splitting, JMM will never be regarded like Duran was or is.

 

Mayweather will beat Mosley he's better inside and out. Quit making a fool of yourself.