Pacquiao is a bitch

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  1. Neil

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    I never indicated that roach would steer pacquiao toward mosley. maybe you misunderstood what I said. I merely asked WHY he would do such a thing. basically pointing out to you how your boy will be left out in the cold without a big fight option for the time being.

    of course its wise to fight mayweather, there is MORE money in the fight, MUCH more. we're talking a difference of up to 8 figures more here.

    I don't really know or care what roach said about who is the tougher fight at this point. he's been doing a lot of talking out of his ass as of late since he has began to fancy himself as pacquiao's mouthpiece.

    certainly mosley is the bigger, stronger opponent. but either one will beat pacquiao's ass.
     
  2. Fighter

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    What's more of a BITCH move?Asking BIGGER guys to drop a few pounds while still being technically a welterweight fight? Or asking SMALLER guys to come up TWO divisions while making no compromises and still fighting in your OWN welterweight division?
     
  3. Double L

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    are you as confident in these predictions as you were in your prediction that Hatton would beat Pacquiao?
     
  4. Neil

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    more confident. and more confident than you were in pacquiao to defeat hatton.
     
  5. Double L

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    that's pretty damn confident because as I recall you had it down as a foregone conclusion that Hatton would beat Pacquiao, whereas I couldn't imagine Hatton, with no boxing skills at all, beating anyone the likes of Pacquiao.

    we'll have to see. I don't think either guy (Pacquiao or PBF) has faced an opponent the likes of the other. and the same goes for Mosley. Mosley's tendency to fall in and hold, though, could be his undoing against Pacquiao, depending on how he handles Pacquiao's power. As far as PBF, he'll probably try to fight him like he did Judah, coming forward, using his greater strength. I'm not sure that's the best PBF has to offer. It will depend on how the JMM fight goes. It'd be hilarious and not all together surprising if JMM beat PBF.
     
  6. Muzse

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    manny could only hope to outwork Mosley, he couldn't hurt him. There's a long line of bigger, stronger guys Shane has fought who haven't hurt him. Also, the more physical the fight the less likely Manny is to win it.

    You can't compare the Judah fight with how Floyd would fight Manny. Judah's a great four round fighter who loses focus then falls apart.

    i don't know if Floyd beats Manny's ass...I'd assume he'd outbox him. Shane would put a serious beatdown on Manny...which is why he doesn't get the fight.

    It's also the same reason Mayweather doesn't want any.

    the reason I'm so confident in Shane beating both falls along the lines of how/why Holyfield had no issues with Tyson. If Holyfield and Tyson fought in '91, pre-prison...Holyfield gets his ass whupped.

    After Tyson's prison stint, Holyfield had been in with Bowe, Foreman and Holmes...all bigger guys. Then he gets in with Tyson and he was taller and stronger than Mike. The exact same holds true in a fight with Manny or Mayweather.
     
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    So in other words Mosley beats Pacquiao and Mayweather by clinching them everytime they get close? And with the occasional head-butt? Because that's exactly how Holyfield beat Tyson. And Lewis, whether he needed to or not, followed suit.

    It's sad that holding your opponent all night after landing a single shot has been such an effective strategy for so many fighters. Hatton. Mosley. Hopkins. Wladimir. Lewis in some cases. To me, that's not prize-fighting. That's junk.
     
  8. Double L

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    Also, let's not forget how effective Pacquiao was at dealing with Hatton's attempt to "grab on." He smartly put his head under Hatton's arm-pit everytime, necessitating a break. Or he used his quick feet and used angles to avoid Hatton's hugging assault.

    Also, like Hatton, Mosley telegraphs his punches quite a bit. And is no defensive wizard either.

    If he fought and beat Pacquiao it wouldn't be because he's the better fighter. It'd be because he's the bigger fighter.
     
  9. Muzse

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    How long have you been watching boxing?

    Two, three weeks?
     
  10. Double L

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    Typical response from the all-knowing Musze. Don't address the points I've made. Instead, take the kindergarten approach of discrediting my post by insulting me. That's cool. Thanks for your contribution, preacher.

    That's your new name: The Preacher.
     
  11. Double L

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    Also, I have to say, as much crap as you've given me over the years for being a fan of ODH, your nose is pretty far up Shane's little azz. It's getting embarrassing.
     
  12. Muzse

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    Shane 2, Oscar 0.

    :bears:
     
  13. Muzse

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    Millions go to church on Sunday to get the word from preachers. I'll reserve a seat upfront for ya.

    :pray:
     
  14. Streetfighter

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    It's not like Pac is a real 140 pound fighter anyway. He should be at 135. Asking someone to come down 3 or 4 pounds is not that big a deal.
     
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    It depends on the fighter. 3-4 pounds for some guys can be a "big deal" when they struggle to make their current weight limit.
     
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  17. Streetfighter

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    I meant in light of Paq moving up that much to fight a naturally bigger guy. It is not bad for Paq to ask for that.
     
  18. JayDawg

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    I would agree with you if he didn't already fight at that weight but the fact that he's only looking to fight welterweights for his future fights and has fought there he should fight at the welterweight limit..
     
  19. Double L

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    But when it comes to boxing, you're not the least bit hesitant to preach. And when I say preach, I'm simply referring to the monologues you try to pass off as replies.
     
  20. Erratic

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    Agreed...Mosley is someone who has weighed in at 146 and up for the last 10 years. He cuts weight. Much different than asking a Mayweather or Judah to weigh 143, or Hopkins fighting below 175.

    Rather then to "even things out", Mosley at 142 might just be dead at the weight.
     

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