Pacquiao running scared from Marquez!

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Yaeh looking over Pacquiao's resume the past few years I am sure that was it

 

Aside from struggling with old man Morales - who even Zahir Raheem didn't lose to - what has he done in the past three years?

 

Damn this game is close. Do you guys think Lebron will score more than 10 ponts?

 

Knocked out Morales twice, beat Larios and has a draw with JMM that should have been a win. Go back another 6 months and you can add his win over MAB. So, what is wrong with fighting Morales 3 times,MAB,JMM,Larios,Velasquez and Solis in a 3 1/2 year period?

 

If Billups continues to play like he does in this series, he´ll get less than Jerome James next year

 

The fight with Marquez was over three years ago. All he's fought since then are Larios (coming off a KO loss and coming up two divisions), Morales (old and shot, having recently been handled by Zahir Raheem and a 10-pounds-lighter Marco Antonio Barrera), Velasquez (um, this is supposed to be impressive why?) and well... no one else. All of Pacquiao's impressive performances took place more than three years ago. He's obviously riding on that glory by moving into politics and taking an "I don't have to fight anyone in the top 10 if I don't want to" deal with Arum.

 

You can talk shit about anyone's resume if you want to nitpick. The JMM fight was longer than 3 years ago by 1 whopping month. Big deal. In the past 3.5 years manny has fought everyone I mentioned. Excuses or no excuses he beat them all (except JMM who got a lucky draw).

 

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Oh and as for the Morales fights. He fought Morales the first time and lost (in Pac's first fight at 130). Pacquiao obviously wanted to avenge his loss and he did so. He did sign a rematch clause though so he really didn't have a choice but to fight Morales the 3rd time.

 

Billups can't score from 3.

Lebron is stepping it up. I'll give him that, but a 3 point lead into the half won't be enough. I see this going down 3-0 tonight, Pistons. :crafty:

 

Pacquiao lost the first Morales fight because he sucks. The Morales that lost to a 10-pounds-lighter Barrera (in his first fight at 130) and Zahir Raheem was no good. The only reason he beat Pacquiao is that Pacquiao is one-dimensional.

In the end, Pacquiao's best win(s) were more than three years ago. He hasn't done anything to merit a top-10 pound-for-pound ranking since then. Basically, he's at the same place Floyd Mayweather was in early 2006, only Mayweather went on to beat Baldomir, Judah and De la Hoya. Pacquiao has no chance of fighting any of the big names at 130 because he took the chicken route and signed with Arum, and he'll get killed by Diaz at 135. His career as a top fighter is over.

 

dsimon writes:

I just figured we would get the other side of the storyopcorn: So those of us attempting to judiciously weigh the evidence like Osiris' feather versus a soul, could weigh in ::

 

End of the discussion for me. That means there's about 2 fighters in the whole sport who are good. Let me guess, a MMA nuthugger? :shit:

 

Oh, Pacquiao is fairly good. He should be top-3 or -4 at 130, and top-20 or -25, pound-for-pound. It's laughable that people rank him in the top 10.

 

So is he fairly good or does he suck? There is quite a difference. Not top 10? Really? Who are these other 20 or so guys who are in front of him?

 

You give this place too much credit. This thread is shitty even for shit standards.

 

For someone claiming to be the best in the sport, he sucks. I mean, if his Filipina fans (like you) would be a bit more realistic, you'd see that he simply doesn't belong in the top 10. Here's my current ranking:

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Winky Wright
4. Jermaine Taylor
5. Shane Mosley
6. Ricky Hatton
7. Hozumi Hasegawa
8. Mikkel Kessler
9. Joe Calzaghe
10. Raphael Marquez
11. Christian Mijares
12. Eagle Kwoya
13. Cellestino Caballero
14. Vic Darchinyan
15. Joel Cassamayor
16. Juan Diaz
17. Miguel Cotto
18. Juan Manuel Marquez
19. Marco Antonio Barrrera
20. O'Neil Bell
21. Jose Luis Castillo
22. Wladimir Klitschko
23. Manny Pacquiao
24. Kelly Pavlik
25. Cory Spinks

He's on the same level, pound-for-pound, as Wladimir Klitschko and Cory Spinks, but not quite as good as the O'Neil Bells of the world.

 

I see you've taken to copying my posts word-for-word now. Does your hero worship know no bounds?

 

You're quite lucky Fightbeat doesn't have a "no trolls" policy in place. If Pandy was serious about managing fightbeat, you'd have been gone long ago.

 

Where did you post that exact thing anywhere?

Post the thread or stop trying to flirt with me.

p.s - This thread is shittier than wet dog shit. It should be deleted or locked.

 

this list is pathetic. you have Barrera on top of Pacquiao? How in God's name is this?

And Darchinyan ahead of ODH?

You're just fucking out of your mind. Apparently, you'll say anything to win an argument.

 

He's obviously trolling, however Darchinyan COULD be placed above De La Hoya. I think a lot of people would think the same way too.

 

dsimon writes:

:: I was being tongue in cheek.

 

ahead of JMM, Barrera and Pacquiao too?

 

Barrera? Maybe. Again, thats personal, especially considering he's coming off a loss and basically no quality wins in some time now. I don't, but its actually close.

Not ahead of the other two.

 

i hope i'm proven wrong, but my gut feeling is that Vic is all hype. basically, he's beaten up on a bunch of guys he's stronger than. but i've neve seen him beat anyone with skill, strategy or smarts. for him it's been brute force all the way. that will catch up to him the same way it did Arce.

 

Regardless if Vic loses 50 fights in a row, he's quite obviously "not all hype". Thats typical fickleboxingfanits.

If you don't think Vic's beaten anybody, thats alright. You must not think a great deal of anyone below 126 then, because Vic's beaten a number of top 10 fighters already and none have lasted the distance with him.

 

dsimon writes:

Interesting list Rubio. I make it a policy never to take issue with a list I would/could not construct. You usually have rational reasons for your lists as well. My biggest question would be why is Marquez not higher?

I would get a lot of shit for it but Marquez would be up pretty high on my list... above Cotto and Diaz for sure.

One more issue: If you are giving Taylor credit for his victories then I would assume you would have to do the same for Calzighe's hollow victories which at the very least would make Calzighe and Taylor switch spots? In the name of consistency of course. Hatton would be placed appropriately according to this logic.

 

i didn't say he hasn't beaten anybody. what i'm saying is everybody he has beaten he's done so through the use of brute force and strength. he's pretty much walked through guys. what i wanna know is what he's gonna do when that's not possible.

 

sweet ! Cavs up by 8 - 2:00 to go.