Pacquiao to fight Mosley or Mayweather Next

Random urine testing can't detect alot of things on it's own. You need to learn about drug testing before you post your bs on here.

 

So you're the expert now huh? ::

Urine tests won't show a-side meth!

 

Hahaha, I almost certainly know more than you ::

They developed a test to detect HGH in urine, which seems to be the PED of suspicion regarding Pacquiao.

They've also been able to detect EPO in urine for years, which is the other most likely candidate.

And of course urine can detect some of the more common roids like Stanozol, which is why Toney failed a drug test.

Maybe YOU should read up a bit more on drug testing before spouting your bullshit on here.

 

1.What urine test detects HGH? Where?

2. What is EPO? Explain. And why are blood tests used in conjunction with urine for EPO? And finally, why is it that all those who have been caught using "EPO" were caught via BLOOD TEST?

Maybe you should take your own advice?

 

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Because they would voiced it instead of the absolute fucking bullshit they've been voicing instead? ::

What better way to pressure Pacquiao and denigrate his name that to suggest the solid evidence they obviously have.

I'm guessing there's no solid evidence at all, and thus we had stuff like "da bullets was bouncin' off dey muddfucker's ass, dem 45's bouncing off dem muddafuckers, 500 years ago, da a-side, dat's what pacquiao takin'".

By the way Kenneth, I'm glad you finally acknowledge what a compromise is, and concede that yes, what Pacquiao was offering is pretty much the dictionary definition of a compromise.

And if Floyd isn't going to get the NSAC to change their rules permanently, ask them to enforce it for this one fight. If Floyd truly wanted the fight, he could have tried harder. Seeing as millions and millions were on the line, if it meant making the fight or not, I'm sure G could have swayed the NSAC to actually implement this testing themselves, for this one fight, leaving Manny no choice but to agree. Afterall it's in their protocol already, according to you.

 

Floyd has now added mind reading to go along with his amazing skills. Of course he knew Manny would turn down the tests! Floyd is a bad man, I tell ya.

 

Because you can fail a test on red blood cell count alone. Which could indeed lead to the possibility of a false positive.

But it can be detected in urine too, and Manny agreed to that.

A test that can detect HGH in urine has been developed by USADA, look it up.

 

WHERE? What test? When did it hit the market? Stop making sh*t up. The test is still being SCREENED.

And how many people have been caught on EPO by urine test?

 

I'm not making anything up. A test has been developed, but hasn't been used yet.

What better place to start than one of the biggest fights in the history of the sport?

Just imagine if it caught Pacquiao too? Those scientists would be flipping out, can you imagine?

 

It hasn't been used yet because it HASN'T BEEN APPROVED.

 

Yes, and what I'm saying is, it exists, GET IT APPROVED FOR THIS FIGHT.

Surely for a fight of this magnitude, getting a test that already exists approved wouldn't be a big deal?

Or would that be unprecedented? Kind of like olympic style testing in a big fight in Vegas? ::

 

WTF are you talking about, get it approved? Who can do that?? When did Floyd start working for the FDA? You're taking a piss or on crack.

 

You're on crack, you've been talking absolute fucking nonsense in this thread.

By the way the test exists, it's on the market right now - http://www.ceresnano.com/esp.htm

There you go, it's right there. Nano particles. Floyd should be campaigning to get this test in the testing pipeline right now :kidcool:

 

MWS, I like you but you're grasping at straws here... It seems you decided to turn yourself into Pac's Fightbeat official representative. I understand that you hate Floyd but your insistance on a piss test that isn't approved yet reeks of bias... Unless you're just pulling IMDAZED chain of course...

 

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WTF are you talking about, govern how his opponent gets tested? Who can do that?? When did Floyd start working for the NSAC? You're taking a piss or on crack.

 

F*ck all this bullsh*t talk! The fact is Floyd was presented the fight, offered a bazillion dollars, and turned it down!
That's the motherf*cking fact here. Pacman was ready to fight! There was nothing stopping this fight from happening except cocksucker Floyd. Now he can go get raped by Shane for 1/2 the purse.
The death of Fagweather....coming soon! :cheer:

 

I totally agree.

 

There is no urine test that is currently governed by USADA that can detect HGH, so what the hell are you talking about.

 

Your boy was afraid of fighting Pacman. The brutal truth! The fight was presented to him, 50/50 purse split, Floyd could've walked away with $30 million+ and he turned it down! Now he not only must get murdered by Shane for half the money but also must face the music in the courtroom for trying to defame Pacman.
Your boy is dead! :mj:

 

Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, disputed Arum’s contention and said a combination of blood and urine testing is required to be effective. He also said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subject to random testing while out of competition.
If any testing is conducted in the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight outside of what is mandated by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.
“To have an effective program, you have to collect blood and urine,” Tygart said. “The reason for that is that there are some things that are only detected in urine and there are some prohibited drugs that are both very lethal and potent from a performance-enhancing standpoint that are only detected in blood. One of those, for example, is human-growth hormone (HGH). There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone. It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_y...LYF?slug=ki-testing122309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

Mex knows what's goin on. Tygert is an idiot.

 

Tygart is the one that funded development for the urine based HGH test, developed by Ceres Nanoscience you idiot RJJ ::

The test is already on the market. Getting it "approved" seeing as it's just a piss test, and is not a substance that is injected into the athlete for example, is no more unprecedented than demanding your opponent get Olympic style drug testing.

If Floyd wanted the fight, he would have either tried harder to get satisfactory testing in place, or just accepted Manny's compromise.

 

That's a routine part of negotiations, gloves, weight, governing how your opponent gets tested isn't.

 

Says who? You? How do you know? What Floyd is doing isn't unprecedented.

 

You really are an idiot.

 

Actually no, not even close. I'm highly intelligent. My intelligence eclipses yours by quite a margin.

You on the other hand - are clearly a grade A moron Kenneth, you obviously can't even see the hypocrisy in what you type.

You act like adding the HGH piss test to USADA's arsenal of testing would be so unprecedented, how could Floyd possibly do that?

All the while acting like it's normal to dictate your opponent's drug testing, something that's handled by the commission, and something that would be just as unprecedented as playing a role in getting a new test to be used by the USADA.

Well the USADA could quite easily, and seeing as they are involved in this now, why not? Floyd didn't even try.

You said it's not on the market yet, it is, it's been developed, and it's available right now. It might not be in use now, but it could be, quite easily.

This has escalated from just one moronic statement of yours though Kenneth - that Manny is an "asshole" for rejecting Floyd's demands.

Sure, that makes him a big arsehole, what gives him the right to undergo the same testing as every other fight in his career? ::

And to think, it's something all other top boxers have to do, but not Manny, what an arsehole!

You really are a spastic, you've spouted nothing but bullshit in this thread, and have repeatedly stated Floyd is just "looking out for himself" without contemplating the possibility that he actually just bitched out of the fight, seeing as he wasn't "looking out for himself" in any of his other 40 fights, where he and his opponent were subjected to the same testing as every other boxer fighting in Vegas.

You seem to be holding him up as this shining example, the new white knight of boxing, the man to clean up the sport and change the face of boxing into a better, cleaner sport.

What an arsehole Manny is! He should do Olympic style testing like everyone else! Oh wait, nobody else does it, then he should do Olympic style testing like Floyd, oh wait, Floyd has never done it either.

You fancy yourself as a hotshot boxing insider, but you're clearly very naive Kenneth, and a bit dim.

 

I can't think of a better fight, to begin introducing the strongest drug testing system into boxing, than Fraud verses Pedquiao?,..

can any of you?

(Noooo :crying:,.. coz pacman dun want dat!).