Pac kayos Cotto with ease Pacman would not lose a round. Honeslty, what the fuck do you guys know. I am the only one that said Margarito would beat Cotto and make him quit. Cotto is not an elite fighter. Pac loses to Williams and Margarito who are elite welterweights. Cotto is a guy who was moved well. Pac makes him quit or knocks him cold. A shot Oscar is slightly worse than Cotto. aT LEAST, i THOUGHT LAST NIGHT'S FIGHT WASN'T A JOKE. Keep laughing. Manny would beat Cotto with ease.
I don't know about Quintana...guys like him and Collazo take it tooo easy..If they can't outbox Pac they won't be doing enough damage to hurt him.... I would love to see Berto vs. Pac..even more so that Pac vs. Hatton..
A few others pick Margarito to beat Cotto....and I think it was Val who pick the correct round 11.... while you said that COTTO would beat Margarito..but right before the fight you change you're mind and pick Margarito..or so you and youre Cali crew said... Cotto ko's Pacquiao...
From 7-25-2008, PM "This Sunday, I guess I could move things around and see if we could meet up. Fuck the dodgers and the national league. I am pumped up for this fight. I know boxing and therefore I have no logical reason to think tony will be competetive. However, I just have a feeling that Tony will pull it out. So my prediction is Margarito tko 10 or 11 Cotto quits on his stool." I'm a huge Cotto fan, who picked Cotto over Margarito, but Pacquiao is all wrong for him. Miguel likes to set his feet and be Trinidadesque in the robotic category. Pacquiao would hurt him, move, and just make Cotto's life miserable
Yes it is...now post that PM i sent you an hour before Pacquiao vs. DE LA HOYA...were i predicted Pac would dominate and Ko DLH with ease.....do it...do it...post it....
That he picked the exact round in a fight I was dead wrong about? yes. And yet there are ignorant inbreds in this very thread claiming he picked Cotto:: That is all.
Not only that I was saying Margarito would beat him for years. You talked me out of it, but I stood firm. I wish you had convinced me to go Pacman's way. I wanted to lose a few pounds, just not from giving cold hard cash to 5 different people. I was wrong about this fight. I was right about Cotto and Winner and You KNOW THIS BECAUSE I have been far more merciless about Cotto off the boards.
I already posted the post where he said Cotto would beat Margarito...but thats the past.... Ike is the leader of the "Hate the Midgets bandwagon"....but apparently he always liked MANNY PACQUIAO...always...since the start......::...okay..sure thing..
Why don't you just admit I owned you. I was dead right about Cotto and you of all people should know I have said Cotto was a fraud for years.
It's only the past because I made you look like the dipshit you are. BTW, are you seriously trying to show I haven't said Cotto is warmed over shit for years. I have been saying he sucked forever. I was proven right when that scrub Torres nearly kayoed little Joto. Yet, you ass clowns kept claiming he was elite. Elite fighters don't get nearly stopped by Torres sorry.
I still hold out hope for Cotto against the right people. Bottom line is Pacquiao is a force, from 130-147
Elite fighters don't lose to Torrescampo or Singsurat by KO(like Pac)...they don't lose to their pro debut(like Hop)...or lose to JCVasquez(like Winky)....yet those guys went on to prove they were ELITE...just cause you lose doesn't mean you are SHIT or a bum.. Yes i remember you saying Cotto was a fraud or a bum or not very good...but you say that about most fighters... :dunno:
NEVER!!! Cintron doesn't have the testicular Fortitude to last 10 rounds with Pacquaio. Cintron is a joke. I agree that Margarito should KO Manny...but I'm not so sure about Cotto (I know you like to back your Rican buddies). Cotto's resolve is questionable. It's very possible that Pacquaio could rattle that cranium of his with a right hook to the temple...and if he does that...Cotto will NOT survive.
dsimon writes: That would be uncharacteristic of Cotto... I agree with Illum, I mean Cotto loses a fight and suddenly he is chopped liver? The truth is that Cotto was not in any physical condition to fight a big welter... That was the problem from his perspective! From Margarito's perspective he was strong and good enough to overpower Cotto. He would not have that problem with Manny. With Manny other problems emerge of a different sort but they are from Cotto's perspective manageable. The Manny fight would from Cotto's perspective be similar to the Shane fight. I don't know who would win I have not analyzed it yet.
Cintron is not an elite fighter, BUT..... all it would take is one right hand from him, and Manny would be out for a week.
But i can see Pacquiao fucking him up to the body with all that in and out movement...but as sound as one SOLID right hand from Cintron lands it's OVER.....and I can see Pacquiao going to the body and avoiding most of Cintron punches for 12 rounds..i really do...
and all it will take is one combination from Cotto and Pacquiao will know he isn't fighting a shot DLH who stood infront of him most of the fight...w/out even trying to jab his way it...but then again he wasn't even trying to come at Pac.... Cotto by KO...
I could see Manny beating Cintron as well. Not really cause of the body punching, more based upon simple speed. Cintron is just not very quick. But Cintron will open up more than old man Hoya did, and like I said.. all it takes is one flush right hand from Kerm, and Manny would history.
Body shot/speed and movement...that how i see Pac beating Cintron. Pac won't be landing many head shot..from what i remember Cintron fights tall and no way Pac would reach up that high....but one right and it's over...
Speed. Speed and Speed.Cotto would get brutalized and I disagree Cotto is elite. I have never thought that. He isn't. It isn't just the fights he lost. It is how he struggled with Zab, yes struggled. Zab hurt him everytime he landed. How he barely beat Shane. I thought it was a draw. How he couldn't stop Paulie who went toe to toe with him. The evidence was there and I have been pointing it out. Margarito didn't just beat him.He destroyed him.Torres a club fighter nearly stopping him.
dsimon writes: 1) Judah is a good gatekeeper but "struggle?" hardly. I mean Mayweather and almost anyone else has a little frustration before they commence to merrily beating the spaz, but they do and the spaz was on the ground grimicing like he should be when he fought Cotto. Watching the spaz grimace is second only to watching De La Hoya get done or The bastard maker get hit multiple times.... With Holly it is great when he gets a shot for each child support payment he misses. 2) You exxagerate Cotto's faults Ike. Truth is he gets it done he outboxed Mosley and he learned a lesson against Torres. He beat Paulie's ass and only kept him around to keep the beating in session and you know that. We definitely disagree on Cotto.
From Steve Kim @MaxBoxing: Roach was asked if his charge would face another Mexican, Antonio Margarito. "We're brave," he would say. "But we're not that brave." So I chimed in and asked, "What about Wladimir Klitschko then?" "I'd let him face Klitschko before I would Margarito," replied Roach, with a chuckle. Come on Manny, you can do it, the big bum has no chin. :::crafty: