PAUL WILLIAMS vs KERMIT CINTRON...

U HAVEN'T Given REED a Single,Solitary Reason to "Recant"...

It's CLEAR that U have NATHAN to Touch the TANGIBLE POINTS that REED Made...

So Either TAP OUT or Shut Up,Since U DON'T have the Temerity OR the KNOWLEDGE to Counter what REED Said....

U DO have a Choice...

REED

 

you are beginning to become like the others, you used to be a good poster

 

Margarito is an OVERRATED "Puncher"...He's a "7" @ Best,on a "10" Scale...

Tony is EVERY BIT as SLOW & EASY to Hit as Baldomir...Like Baldomir,Tony's "Strengths" R his CHIN,PRESSURE & DETERMINATION...Like Baldomir,Tony is Pretty ORDINARY N Every Other Regard...Like Baldomir,Tony's Footwork WOULDn'T B Worth SHIT vs Floyd...

Paul Willliams BEAT Margarito w/his SPEED & MOBILITY...But even Williams is NOWHERE as Sound DEFENSIVELY as Floyd is...MORESO,Floyd has MUCH BETTER Handspeed,Mobility AND Counterpunching Ability than Paul Williams could EVER Dream Of...

The SAME Way Floyd DOMINATED Baldomir,he'd DOMINATE Margarito...


REED

 

Oh I know that's silly,.. but so is more or less calling Baldomir and Margarito 'exactly the same',.. and when confronted with such a flawed and DELIBERATELY stupid conclusion like that, instead of explaining the intricate details of styles and physical attributes that differentiate the two,..it's just best to effortless fight the fire with fire,..give him a taste of his own medicine, mock it, if you will.

 

ok i didnt read the post before yours

 

Tony is much more of a puncher than Baldomir is, and brings more pressure and determination due to that alone, Floyd couldn't fight him the same way as Baldy there would be too much pressure at any point to stand in front of the guy, even late

Williams beat Tony with range. volume and mobility, when Tony got in close it was clinch as he's freakishly tall, but what does Paul WIlliams even have to do with this? You're getting off topic

 

Uuuuuuuh,WHEN Did Floyd "Stand in Front" of Baldomir???:dunno: ...He DIDN'T...Nor would REED Expect Floyd to "Stand in Front" of Margarito...

Hence the Premise that Floyd would BEAT Margarito just as he BEAT Baldomir...& even if Tony DOES Hit Harder than Baldomir,it's NOT Like Tony's a "Puncher",per Se...

Williams is RELEVANT to this Argument Because his SPEED & MOBILITY Played as MUCH or even MORE of a Role as his Range & Volume Punching did,N Beating Margarito...

Would U DISagree that Floyd is MUCH Speedier & MUCH More Mobile than Williams???...If Margarito had Difficulty Catching Up to Williams HOW would he Catch up to Floyd???...

U FASHION Yourself as a "Matchup Analyzer" but U're NOT Doing So N This Case....


REED

 

There were points in the fight when Floyd stood and threw more than one shot, it was later in the fight but at the same time he cannot do that with Margarito, and Tony pretty much is a puncher regardless of what you want to admit to.

Williams whole gameplan was built around his attributes which the most obvious ones are height and range, stance as well as mobility, therefore asking questions regarding WIlliams is irrelevant in Floyds case as they don't have the same attributes, we are discussing Floyds approach to Tony not being the same as his approach to Baldy which I have already made clear

If we are debating this why would you need to add you're attempt at disrespect at the end?
I have no favoritism towards Margarito, Baldomir or the one you keep bringing up Williams, 3 swings and 3 misses, however you have shown to me that you in fact have 4 balls bouncing off your chin, 2 being Roy Jones Jr's and the other 2 being Floyd Mayweathers, you should just admit it and cut the bullshit already

 

williams vs cintron is a viable matchup. a unification bout I would certainly like to see

 

& U Have 1 Set of Balls Bouncing Off of your Chin,those Being Jaws'...U're Quite PATHETIC,Following him Around Every Thread (while HE's Following REED Around Every Thread)AGREEing @ EVERY Opportunity U get...Jaws Voices a RiDICKulous Opinion then Here YOU Come Agreeing w/him just for the Fuck of It...Messagboard NUTHUGGERY @ it's Worst...

Think for YOURSELF N the Future,Cause Jaws DOESN'T Know Shit...Ask Around...

What's COMICAL Is,the Vast MAJORITY of the Peeps who've Posted N this Thread SEE Cintron-Margarito for what it is...A VERY INTERESTING,VIABLE,Unification Matchup...

For the VAST MAJORITY of his Fight w/Baldomir,Floyd was on his Bicycle...Hit & Move,1 Shot @ a Time...He was VERY RARELY Flat-Footed N that Bout & If U're Saying Floyd WAS Flat-Footed for the Majority,REED STRONGLY Suggests U Watch it AGAIN...

What REED has Made CLEAR is that Margarito is an OVERRATED Puncher,NOT Hardly a 1 Shot or even a 2 Shot Guy...Floyd has a STOUT Chin...

REED Asked YOU if Floyd was "Speedier & More MOBILE than Williams (Traits that YOU YOURSELF have ADMITTED that Williams Used Against Margarito)& U FAILED to Answer...Basically, U're NOT "Analyzing" the Matchup for SHIT...

AGAIN,Williams SPEED & MOBILITY were CLEAR Advantages Over Margarito & Floyd CLEARLY has THose SAME Advantages Over Williams...So if Margarito COULDn'T Handle the Speed & Mobility of Williams,HOW is he Gonna Cope w/a Fighter w/a HIGHER DEGREE of those Same Traits???...

REED Made it CLEAR N what Areas Baldomir & Margarito R Similar...

Again,Tony is EVERY BIT as SLOW & EASY to Hit as Baldomir...Like Baldomir,Tony's "Strengths" R his CHIN,PRESSURE & DETERMINATION...Like Baldomir,Tony is Pretty ORDINARY N Every Other Regard...Like Baldomir,Tony's Footwork WOULDn'T B Worth SHIT vs Floyd...

REED Added the Disrespect @ the End Cause Quite Frankly,he has NO Respect for YOUR Boxing Opinions...


REED

 

First and foremost if you cant debate without throwing the first insult out there, you obviously have bias or other interest towards the fighter you defend.

I don't need to ask anything to anyone, if you feel Williams should fight Cintron yet Floyd shouldn't fight Margarito, you've got issues period.

You're slippin already with the statement that Marg-Cintron should fight again... again garbage:laughing: This is a good reason why people shouldn't smoke meth :nono:

Floyd and Williams don't have near the same attributes mainly height and reach, what matchup are you even trying to refer to anyway? You're trying to spin this off into some other garbage but when it comes down to it Baldomir and Margarito aren't the same fighter and Floyd simply won't approach the fight in the same way, it's a different fighter with a different distinct style and on top of that with a more proven punch altogether.

 

I would like to see Williams get a defense in first

 

They haven't fought. You know nothing about how such a fight would go until it happens.

Floyd is the king of beating guys on paper.

 

i think Williams is one of those already... the one i would rank higher than him without thinking twice is Floyd.

Not so sure about Mosley and Cotto but Williams is in that department!


Based on styles i give Cintron a good chance throughout the fight Mathysse and Margarito aren't one punch artists like Cintron and if Kermit catches him often enough who knows if Williams could absorb all of that.