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Tony was notorious for not training. Wasn’t he using this to heal injury also? He took this fight on short notice right?

 

There was something tho. He was injured when approached about the fight. Taking this steroid to help speed up heeling. While doing that he was approached to fight ruiz and like an idiot accepted it, despite being loaded with the stuff.

 

Wow he didnt gas against Hold all fight Ruiz? Amazing. Trained his ass off? Fuck out of here.

 

This is why he was on the PED To Speed up the Healing process from his injury:

DR. TONY DALY SAYS JAMES TONEY SURGERY WAS A SUCCESS

"I CAN'T BELIEVE HE WAS ABLE TO FIGHT 12-ROUNDS"

LOS ANGELES, September 29 - Three-division world champion James Toney just underwent a 1 1/2 hour operation to mend what Dr. Tony Daly described as a ruptured biceps tendon in the elbow suffered in the first round of his bout last Thursday against Rydell Booker at the Pechanga Resort and Casino.

Dr. Daly expects a full recovery with a return to the ring for "Lights Out" after approximately a three month rehabilitation and strengthening program and than his normal preparation period for a bout, projected to be February or March, 2005.

"It's amazing with the tear he suffered that he was able to fight another 11 rounds without a biceps tendon in the elbow. Normally an athlete would be in such severe pain and agony they would be finished immediately," said Dr. Daly.

"Dr. Daly informed me after the operation that the tendon normally is pulled off the bone, but in this case it was shredded, which he attributes to James determination to continue fighting. This story isn't about how rare of a talent he still is in the ring, but how his courage and will power was displayed during the bout to overcome this injury," Toney's promoter Dan Goossen added.

Fox Sports Net's "Best Damn Sports Show Period" which broadcast the Toney-Booker event, was the most watched primetime telecast in the history of the program and reached an audience in excess of 1 million total viewers.

 

what facts have you presented? You claimed the steroid you listed doesnt affect the body's physique when taken alone. I posted a link that said otherwise. In fact, Neca builds muscle mass. Toney was injured in the fight prior to Ruiz. The injury was severe. The man was recovering from it while still supposedly training for Ruiz. No way Toney could put in a hard training camp. In fact, as toney got older, he got fatter and got lazier in the gym.

My point was that when you put the kind of training in that most of the MMA guys put in, and you are on some kind of PED, the result will show up in your physique. Obviously, if you take something and dont put in the hard work in the gym like Toney, you arent going to see the same results.

Seriously tho, you have given no facts, but just opinion.

As far as never changing my opinion, please list me the times you have changed you opinion on here.

 

It was said Barnett had a body worse than fedor. I showed pictures that proved otherwise. Then someone mentioned a time where Barnett was caught using and his body looked like crap but i responded that Barnett was cleared of that charge so it didn’t count. It also wasn’t deca. I said that the training these guys in mma do will cause them to have body transformations if they are in something. You listed toney as an example. Yet toney was recovering from a severe injury which required surgery. He had taken the roid you mentioned to help heal his injury. That injury, no doubt, limited his ability to train properly. That along with toney becoming increasingly lazy as he got older also would be a treason for his lack of body transformation. Do you realize how many people I can list that have been caught and have shown the transformation? I don’t need to, because it’s obvious that peds and roids cause this.

And you said that deca barely do anything alone for aesthetics. Yet that’s not true as it can significantly build lean muscle mass. Sometimes that is aesthetically pleasing to many people.

 

As for toney can Ruiz and toney being in shape, he same sure didn’t look it. Coming in at like 233 pounds with a belly. No way he “trained his ass off”

 

My whole point was that the work needs to be put in for results to show. My whole point was that is why I didn’t believe fedor was on anything because his training was legendary. He would put in severe work in the gym and if he was on something it would show.

 

John was Ruiz was garbage man. Toney skill level is on another level. He was never getting destroyed by no fucking John Ruiz. And again 233 pounds, looking pudgy doesn’t scream “trained his ass off”

 

Fedor was pudgy his whole career. Toney was a lean guy who use to look great. Are you serious?

 

We can disagree on the rest, I don’t care. But don’t tell me toney “trained his ass off ” for Ruiz. Even Rjj called him out on it.

 

The guy was 5’9 and weighed 233 pounds. He wanted to weigh 220 for the the fight and couldn’t. look at his body 3 weeks before the fight. Toney had no respect for Ruiz. He knew he would destroy him. And he didn’t need to be in shape to do it. He said it early. His goal was to knock Ruiz out. Not go the distance.

 

Toney style never used much energy. And someone like Ruiz wasn’t going to change that. A 5’ 9” 233 pound man ain’t someone that trained his ass off.