PAULIE MALIGNAGGI's BARE KNUCKLE DEBUT June 22nd...

Toney claimed he took headshots that impacted on his pituitary gland in the brain.

Toney himself voyzed that ping.

 

Problem with your theory is that we saw multiple times a not in shape Toney, and he never looked as good as he looked against ruiz, even against lesser opposition

 

Ruiz is a million time better than mcgroom, and toney loiked horrible against him.

And come on ruiz was far from trash. He beat a lot of top guys

 

Rahman, johnson, oquendo and golota (controversially). Not to mention that most thought he deserved the nod against valuev.

All top 10 top 5 hws at the time and in their prime

 

It's sort of weird to think that nobody knows or cares about John Ruiz despite his respectable achievements and being the first ever Puerto Rican heavyweight boxing champion in history.

 

The Godfather keeping it real!

 

Yeah true. F*ck Ruiz!

 

Golota was coming off probably his best performance since the Bowe fight (hw won that byrd fight).

Rahman was a few years removed from beating Lewis, was coming off from a bs draw against tua, and got shifted against toney a few years later.

Oquendo was coming off getting robbed by byrd, and had a lot of solid performances (even if the judges shifted him often) afterward.

Johnson was well on his way to losing that fight before the dq. Just got kd and it was slipping away from him. And he was without a doubt a top5 guy at the time.

Its cute and easy to destroy pretty much anybody resume. And while ruiz sure wasnt ali, its undeniable that he was a top hw during his time. No way that an untrained toney would have turned such a performance against him

 

Ruiz is lucky.

 

Ruiz vs David Haye was a lot of fun.

Haye legit dropped Ruiz but Ruiz dropped him too but the referee never called it

 

That was around the time when retards on Eastside used to seriously claim that Haye would beat a prime Tyson.

 

He would beat prime Tysons meat, with his fucking mouth.

Ruiz was brave though.......

The reason I always hated Haye was because he thought he could shortchange boxing.

I understand nobody ever wants to be a dumbbell but Haye took it way too far, he tried to rip boxing off, and the net result was he wound up being trashed and embarrassed in the exact same fashion he had spent his entire career trying to avoid.

For years, Hayes entire thing was the little Cruiserweight that could. The little man relying on speed to outwit and smash all these big dumb fucks.

To see his career ended by brutal KO by a Light-heavyweight was especially brilliant, having spent fucking years trying to sneak around every risk in exchange for profits normally only reserved for career risk-takers.

Haye was that guy in school who always tried to sneak out of the hard jobs.

 

Yeah, he was indeed a con artist.

 

A Pugilistic Opportunist if Ever There was One...

REED WANTED to Like David Haye, but Got Off that Train After (Pinky) Toe-Gate...





REED

 

The best thing about Haye were his shirts and posters of the Klitschkos both being decapitated. LOL
He brought a lot of hype and went out like a mouse.

 

Overly braggadocious types usually rub me the wrong way. I understand the need to self-promote and so on, but too many guys come off as total fakes. False bravado followed with bullshit excuses when their bluffing hand is called.

 

Here You Go Neil.

Randall Bailey Goes Bare Knuckle, Added To Malignaggi-Lobov








REED

 

I have a hard time seeing a cage fighter win a fist fight against a guy who can crack like Bailey.

What they could consider "punchers" in MMGAY is NOT a puncher in boxing.

We saw how comical Connor's "power" was against a boxer.

 

if it were former 154lb champion daniel santos it might be an interesting fight. but this fella performs capoeira

the 3 time champ will murder him and then dance capoeira on his shallow grave

 

MMA guys are honest. They call it "STRIKING"....which is just as well, cos it ain't fucking PUNCHING.

 

"This sonuvabitch just STRUCK me!"

See, even the verbiage is faggoty.

"A massive STRIKE! Now he's tapping out from a REAR NAKED CHOKE!! OMG this is incredible!"

Nah, I'll keep boxing.

 

Another thing I despise about UFC/MMA culture - EVERY good fight is "the best fight ever!" Every one of them!

"OMGG!!! This has to be the best fight of all time!"

Conversely, we keep things in perspective... likely because our sport is a lot older with a faarrrr richer history.

My problem is when those faggots try to bring that tendency into our sport. A prime example is Joe Rogan referring to Wider-Fury as "One of the best heavyweight fights ever!"

I almost died laughing. Wilder-Fury ain't even a top 50 heavyweight fight in history.

I fuckin hate those MMA faggots. It's way too WWE-ish for me.

 

For me, MMA is one thing, UFC is something totally different. UFC is basically what would happen to boxing if Max Kellerman and Teddy Atlas were basically in charge of every fight all the time. Total fanboy bullshit, or real venomous bias, depending on the situation.

BUT MMA in general.....it's like they feel they have been left out of something, so now they have their own thing, they have to be totally over the top and "AMAZED" by everything that EVER happens............

There's a complete lack of self awareness. Some guy comes in, clearly roided to the fucking gills.....and they are like "OH MAH GAWD he's in such condition and shape he's worked so hard it's clear".

In boxing.......first off, it never happens to the same extent...but people drop subtle hints...."functional weight advantages" and "never seen him in such shape before...ever...ever..ever.....never ever..." are dropped, like loud farts, into an otherwise benign commentary.


We at least are somewhat honest about it. But the MMA guys just live in a denial soup.

 

I also can't that Mauro Renallo has a platform in our sport - his style is made for wrestling and MMA.

Boxing should be called the way Don Dunphy, Tim Ryan, and Barry Tompkins called it.

 

Yeah, it's ALL SHOUTING now. I hate it.

One exception: Howard Cossell. He's the only guy I could ever accept shouting....and it's because you could see he was losing his own shit and not just trying to show off. He shouted because he FORGOT where he was, not because he wanted you to know where he was.

Some of the best, indeed THE BEST, lines in sport have been delivered in a totally deadpan fashion.

"They think it's all over, it is now".

"This one's over, Steelers repeat".

"Oh and Decker's down.....the World champion and favourite is now flat out on the infield"

 

Can you imagine Mauro Renallo calling Tyson-Berbick instead of Barry Tompkins?

The legendary "And WE.... have a new era.... in boxing!" gets replaced by "MAMAAA MIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... the diminutive destroyer has detonated Berbick and they are feeling it in Barbados!! OHHH MYY GODDD!"