Pavlik's power

Yeah, relaxation as opposed to what JT was doing. All that fidgeting and shit wasting energy and punches up until rd 3 not to mention the wasted shots when he hurt Pavster. JT was supposed to be the experienced guy? I thought maybe he should have tried fighting on the inside to neutralize Pavster's power and reach.

As for comparing Pav to guys like Shane who "acts constipated". The kind of power that Pav has is god given, you either have it or don't so you shouldn't penelize the mere mortals. Shane was blessed with handspeed, not power.

 

This I agree with.

 

Hard to tell really. Maybe it was just that Taylor's chin was THAT good. It is a possibility

 

VERY good post.

 

Sly - I think you need to read my opening post then look at the KO posted, then consider if his power is overrated.

He takes his time, is very relaxed, and doesn't put everything into every shot. Compare the almost testing, range finding right hands he was throwing early, and not even landing flush, to the cannonball he launched in the seventh round that caught taylor right on the jaw, and the vicious uppercut that followed.

Pavlik is a master at conserving his energy and luring his opponent into a false sense of security, but make no mistake, when pavlik REALLY throws his power is sick.

 

Yeah I'd agree with that. G-man, Hearns, Benn, and Jackson are 4 guys who woulda SMOKED Taylor like a spliff within 3-4 rounds.

 

Funny, cos Benn couldn't even beat Collins, and needed like, 135 rounds to get rid of Nicholas Piper.

 

Benn was shot when he fought Collins, and Collins had a very sturdy chin.

Benn was limited, but he hit as hard as any middleweight in history. And Taylor's defense is shit. Benn woulda left him for dead.

 

Besides most people forget...or don't realize, than Benn lost SIGNIFICANT amount of power when he moved up to 168 for some reason.

He was not the one-punch artist at that weight that he was at 160.

 

He hit Eubank with EVERYTHING in their 1st fight, that was at 160...and FUCK ALL happened.

He was NEVER a Stanley Ketchel in terms of power. People just liked to think he was.

 

i think benn was just a step below jermain taylor in class.

he might have knocked taylor out, but he might have been knocked out as well. his chin was soft, and taylor does hit hard.

anyone who thinks that fight is a blowout is out of their mind.

 

Considering the DeWitt fight, I have to agree. And there was some Jamaican that had Nigel in all sorts of grief when Nigel was a bit green too.

 

Seriously, Pavlik remids me of Foreman in so many ways. He's not as slow as Foreman of course but the point is that his punches are all within his control, and even when they look insignifigant they're money in the bank. The damage that he does defines "heavy-handed." Hell, his jab looked like it was lightly touching Taylor, but it had the champ moving 4-5 steps at a time when he doubled on it.

 

Yeah because a record of 32-0-0 29 indicates a lack of power.

Especially considering that he has DESTROYED top ranked, durable fighters in his last 3 fights.

Come on man, dont diminish one thing that this dude does have, and thats GREAT power.

 

Thats flawed.

Klitschko was 28-0 (28} when he lost to Byrd, and he didn't seem to be backing Chris up too much with his raw power. Even at that, he needed a long enuff time to break down guys he could hit.

KO percentages are misleading when exclusively relied on.

 

First of all, we are talking about Pavlik, not Vitali. We all know that you can't base one boxers abilities on anothers past performances.

Secondly, you base your argument on a single instance with a technicality. An injury came into play in that fight.

Pavlik has shown a history of great power, dramatically stopping most of his opponents. Even the highly ranked ones.

 

Pavlik backed-up Taylor with his jabbing, too.

 

Pavlik's power?
Put it this way: he has more power at 160lb had Trinidad at 154lb no question.

 

Shit,if Pavlik has no power,then I'd like to see who the hell has any then:doh: