Photo's of Floyd Mayweather training for Victor Ortiz

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  1. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

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    He took a shot at me, I returned the favour. Now you're trying to get involved. Why not leave well enough alone Sly? I assure you it's all for the best...:lol:
     
    Hanz, Jul 22, 2011
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  2. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    again you are missing the point.
     
    Anthony, Jul 22, 2011
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  3. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Very true
     
    Muzse, Jul 22, 2011
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  4. Neil

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    which welterweights would you pick to defeat berto?
     
    Neil, Jul 22, 2011
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  5. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    There's a "Must have lost to Floyd first" clause in the contract language for Pacquiao opponents.

    Ortiz needs to lose to move on to a bigger and better fight.
     
    Muzse, Jul 22, 2011
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  6. Destruction and Mayhem

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    NO...you've missed the point in the first place.
     
    Destruction and Mayhem, Jul 22, 2011
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  7. Hanz

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    Cotto...Margarito...Clottey
     
    Hanz, Jul 22, 2011
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  8. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    That's a loaded question...your argument is based on Berto waiting until the guys who would have beaten him moved up (like Cotto, Williams), aged and got their asses kicked (like Mosley and Margarito).

    His best bet are against guys like Ortiz (who he lost to) or Bradley who are coming up from 140.

    If anything, it says more about how poor 147 is than how "good" Berto was/is.


    There's basically a top two then the rest should be unranked until you get down to let's say 13 or 14. That's how huge the drop in talent is.
     
    Muzse, Jul 22, 2011
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  9. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Cotto, Margarito, Clottey and JMM disagree.
     
    *Z*, Jul 22, 2011
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  10. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    add in Marquez....as far as I'm concerned...Marquez is 2-0 against Pac...now is the perfect time for Pac to beat him...post-Mayweather.
     
    Muzse, Jul 22, 2011
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  11. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Pac clearly should have won the first JMM fight.
     
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  12. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Hatton, DLH, Mosley and Marquez would agree.
     
    Muzse, Jul 22, 2011
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    You said that Ortiz isnt hand picked and by our logic no one outside of Pac isnt worthy. From there you said that we think may should be innactive.

    my point is that just because you are active doesnt mean your opponents are worthy. You can be inactive with unworthy opponents. The fact remains that Gatti, DLH, Baldomir, Marquez, Ortiz were all hand picked. when was the last time May fought a mandatory?
     
    Anthony, Jul 22, 2011
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  14. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Marquez? So Pac didn't fight him twice before he fought Mayweather?
     
    *Z*, Jul 22, 2011
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It makes sense that Pac would fight more guys that Floyd has already fought. Floyd has been a welterweight much longer. Of course Floyd wouldn't have fought a bunch of guys Pac already beat, besides JMM, since they are all much too small for Floyd to fight.
     
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  16. Beyond the Grave

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    Ortiz is not that good.Floyd should win this handpicked fight if he's in top form.
     
    Beyond the Grave, Jul 22, 2011
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  17. Muzse

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    did you see where I said I felt Pac LOST to marquez both times? Thus...granting a third fight after losing to Mayweather.

    Keep up. It's all in print to revisit when you need to.

    :Thumbs:
     
    Muzse, Jul 22, 2011
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  19. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Ahh so we now rewrite history to keep the patter going. Got it.
     
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  20. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Two names Maidana and Peterson a one handed Mayweather jr is better than both of them.....it will be good fight until Ortiz get seriously hurt..after that it's DONE....

    Yes Victor show heart, valor, courage, motivation, etc..etc..vs. Berto but that was ONE fight...both guys were about the same level...both were tired after 5-6 rounds...Mayweather won't be exhausted clinching and on shaky legs for rounds..and rounds...
     
    ILLUMINATI, Jul 22, 2011
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  21. Beyond the Grave

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    I rather see him inaçtive
     
    Beyond the Grave, Jul 23, 2011
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    Well Cotto and Margarito were both available and both more worthy than Ortiz.
     
    Rainmaker, Jul 24, 2011
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