Question for the ages (For Spanish speakers)

Pavlik-Taylor 1 is definitely a top 10 fight of the 00s.

 

Tua-Ike is the most overrated of all the "great fights" by far. MAB-Morales 1 and 3 were both excellent.

 

I felt that way for awhile. That Tua-Ike was overrated. Then a few months ago I rewatched it for the first time in like 3-4 years, and I realized it's actually an excellent fight.

What was MISSING from Tua-Ike was an electric crown. The crowd was HORRIBLY DEAD, which takes away some of the luster.

 

Tua-Ike was high volume toe to toe stuff but it was devoid of drama from my recollection.

 

Compared to Trinidad-Vargas MAB-Morales was like two coked up indefatigable teenagers slap boxing for 40 minutes.

Chico-Castillo was great because the shifts in momentum were so subtle. They weren't bouncing each other off the mat but if you know boxing and you were paying attention it looked like one guy was on course to be in control in a few rounds and then it would shift the other way over and over again.

 

And its that one fight that people elevate Ibeabuchi to the ridiculous heights he has been, because its somehow being ´cool´.

(who was the arsehole who used to post here using his name? wasnt he a Ibeabuchi Groupie?)

 

Free Ike...He was a RUBIO Wannabe Though....







REED:hammert:

 

The Ikemafulla was no Ringo wannabe.

 

No one beats Jermaine for 3 rounds, for 3 rounds, all the hall of famers and legends yield to the king.

You can either be a good fighter for 12, or p4p best ever for 3.

 

Corrales-Castillo 1 is my #1 fight of all-time, followed by Ali-Frazier 3. I don't know what would be #3, lots of candidates (Moore-Durelle 1, Saad-Lopez 2, Saad-Johnson 1, to name a few, are up there).

Trinidad-Vargas was great though, and one of my favorites, and most watched fights ever. One thing I always hear (not really here, but elsewhere) is that Vargas lost because he made the mistake of going to war with Trinidad. I do not think it's quite true. I would agree that Vargas did make that mistake at certain points, particularly in the 9th round (Foreman correctly noted it at the end of the round), but there were other shifts in momentum and many other things that occurred.

Vargas got badly hurt in round 1 when he got a jab countered. That's it. A countering of a jab. That was just a great move by Tito, and little to do with Vargas being too macho and brawling with Tito. Vargas dropped Tito in round 4 and took a brutal low blow for his troubles. Vargas dominated round 5, and Trinidad came back late in round 6 with a right hand that Merchant said landed around the neck. Vargas had been having success boxing and using the ring. Rounds 7 and especially 8 were competitive, I thought Tito won both, and Vargas again was trying to box and use the ring but Tito kept getting to him. Tito again got to Vargas in round 9 with a long right hand when Vargas was backing up.

Foreman noted that Vargas was trading left hooks with Tito, and that he would pay for it. He was right about that, but I always respected Vargas for really "going out on his shield". He took the risks and paid the price, but at least he wasn't content with losing a decision. It's always more satisfying for a fight to end like this one did, than to see someone not take enough risks and just be happy losing a decision (like Tua and Mosley often did, or countless Mayweather opponents).