Rampage Quits!!!!

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  1. Anthony

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    I like Reed. he is probably my favorite poster here. But im sorry he feels the need to attack me because i disagree with Rampage. You are still my boy Reed.
     
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    He didn't quit the Rashad fight, he asked for it to be postponed. There is a big difference. 2-3 months down the road (we get the fight, and Rampage gets the movie. And don't tell me that Rampage's rising star wouldn't be of benefit to UFC.

    As for commitment...as far as i am aware, Rampage never signed to fight Rashad....if he had done, then surely Dana wouldn't hesitate in suing Rampage for breach of contract. Dana should have got the names on paper....he fucked up....instead all he had was a verbal agreement....ask Frank Warren how much that stands up in court.

    Also, if Rampage is correct in what he says, about Dana fucking him around with the Machida fight, thus making it look like Rampage was ducking Lyoto....then, in my eyes, that just adds more in favour of Rampage's argument.

    And remember, rumours about Rampage appearing in the A-Team movie have been circulating for around 18 months....this was no bolt from the blue.
     
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    When you put 100% the blame on Fedor for not signing with the UFC when we have no ideas what were the numbers offered ( the rumored contract has been said to be false by all party involved and even more, M-1 said they would have sign if this what was really offered ) and the stipulation of the contract, that to me makes you look like a shill
     
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  4. Bob N Weave

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    Jason McDonald? Rich Clementi? Wasn't Trigg almost cut this week?
     
  5. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Athletes in all sports get cut all the time. I don't see what the big deal is if the UFC does it.


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    Ridiculous. for years i blamed UFC for the deal breaking down. This is the first time i blamed fedor.
     
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    He quit MMA. And if he didnt have a signed contract, he still had a verbal one which is still binding. Either way, i doubt Dana would sue Rampage Like dana said, he doesnt want to force someone to fight. If what he says about Machida is true, then of course its fucked up. The problem is trusting rampage. BTW, i have not seen rampage's name circulating for 18 months. More like 3 months. 18 months ago, Ving Rhames was suppose to be B.A.
     
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    Guys like Clementi and McDonald didnt have long term contracts. Fight to Fight i believe. Clementi lost twice in a row and couldnt draw a dime.
     
  9. Bob N Weave

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    Nah. McDonald completed 2 fights of a 4 fight contract.
     
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    my bad. I was shocked they got rid of McDonald. Thats not a lot of examples tho.
     
  11. Bob N Weave

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    Point being is that it does happen.
     
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    unless you can prove McDonald wasnt paid some sort of compensation, i would say it doesnt matter.
     
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    He quit MMA off the back of all the shit Dana was saying. Had Dana just swallowed his pride, re-arranged the fight for 3 months down the line, then Rampage would still be an MMA fighter.

    As for Rampage being linked with the movie....

    June 2008 (15 months ago): http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...acus-in-A-Team-filmMMAMixed-Martial-Arts.html
     
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    they were having open auditions for B.A. Baracus. John Singleton isnt even directing movie. Since that Interview, the movie was scrapped, and picked up again with a new director. The new director wanted Ving Rhames for the role. Rampage Recently was chosen. You could have asked 1000 people who were going to try out fo B.A. and they would have said the samething rampage did. But Rampage wasnt part of the film whatsoever until about 2 months ago.

    He didnt quit because of what Dana was saying, i dont care what he says. He is getting MAJOR flak from fans. Thats why he told the fans to kiss his ass. Dana HAS to say something. He has a shitload of dissapointed people. He could lose the whole audience in Rampage's hometown. He has to give a reason. And the reason is that Rampage fucked him over.
     
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    Rampage has been linked with the role for 15 months, that is UNDENIABLE....that's 15 months that the POSSIBILITY of getting the role, has been out there. It's like an astroid heading to earth, it's on its way, it might hit or miss, but the possibility of it hitting is there.

    You can have your own theories about Rampage quitting....and fact is, we don't really know....i'm not gonna spend night and day on that. He might not have even quit....the words barely mean anything anymore....it might be a deliberate ploy to piss Dana off..... or it might be a genuine decision at this time but, give it a couple of months for the dust to settle, he may change his mind.

    Of course Dana had to say something.....but Dana has a habit of saying things the wrong way, whether it is swearing in TV interviews, or slagging off one of his biggest draws.....he could've said something like 'I'm pissed off, Rampage has agreed to do a movie....i'm not happy with the situation, but we'll move on'....there are times in life where we all want to verbally rip someone a new one, but we learn to bite our tongue....Dana evidently, is still to learn this
     
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    See the thing is we don't know what the contracts say, it could say that if he lost twice he would be cut. He was 2-4 in his last 6 fights witht he UFC. He fought 10 fights for the UFC.
     
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    HOW Can U NOT Think it's a Big Deal if UFC Does it, then Get on Rampage's Case for NOT "Honoring his Committment" in the Next Breath???...It's the SAMEfuckingTHING...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    So WHEN Proof is Provided, "It Doesn't Matter"???...C'Mon, Godfather...


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    ok so what White did to McDonald is the same thing Rampage did to the UFC, Rashad, The UFC Fans & his hometown? please elaborate.
     
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    C'mon Reed, not even close.


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    Why was he linked, because he wanted to audition for a movie that got scrapped? Wanting to audition for a movie that got scrapped and actually being considered for the role of a brand new movie are two different things. I will put it this way. Lets say Rampage got the part in the John singleton movie. Right this minute he would not be playing B.A. Because that movie with John Singleton is no longer being made. This was a brand new movie, in which rampage recently auditioned for.
     
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    Backing Out of Committment is BACKING OUT OF A COMMITTMENT...YOU Guys Wanna Give UFC EXCEPTIONS & JUSTIFICATION, but it's BULLSHIT...Kicking Guys to the Curb MID-CONTRACT is the SAME Thing Rampage is Doing Basically...

    The ONLY Difference Is, U Guys DIGEST the Shit Easier when UFC Brass Does it, than when Fighters Do It....



    REED:hammert:
     
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    Please elaborate on the details of McDonald's contract
     
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    That's like saying that an NFL team who cut a player who isn't performing is absolutely no different then when Ricky Williams suddenly out of the blue retired while in his prime, just a few weeks after the draft.


    It's just not the same.


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    PISS POOR Analogy...

    1st of All, NFL Contracts AREN'T Guaranteed...2nd of All, Ricky Williams had to RETURN Portions of his Earnings (AND Signing Bonus), if REED's Not Mistaken...As it Pertains to MMA, Kicking a Guy to the Curb in the MIDDLE of his Contract is NOfuckingDIFFERENT than a Fighter RETIRING in the MIDDLE of his Contract...

    Dana Exercises his RIGHT to TERMINATE Business Dealings w/Fighters WHENEVER he Wants...Rampage is Exercising HIS RIGHT to TERMINATE His Business w/UFC...WHERE'S the Difference???...



    REED:dunno:
     
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    NO....



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    If you can't see the difference, you'd make a horrible businessman.


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    Again, you HAVE no clue of the contract the UFC has with McDonald. This shouldnt even be an argument. We cant use this an example without the facts.
     
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    From the point that Rampage made his interest in the role known, the possibility, however unlikely it may have seemed at times, has been there. It was something Rampage wanna do....that was known then, so should not be a big surprise now. It was not a bolt from the blue. That was the very simple point i was making.
     

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