RATE NASEEM HAMED AS {A} A Fighter {B} A Featherweight Champion.

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Orthodox Crusader, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2006
    Messages:
    15,616
    Likes Received:
    11
    He was one annoying little punk, I was ecstatic when MAB schooled him. Then the guy quits like the bitch that I always knew he was.

    How can you call someone great when he retired like that, that amazes me.

    If the Rocket was a natural Featherweight the outcome of their fight would have been totally different.
     
  2. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2003
    Messages:
    9,078
    Likes Received:
    890
    Occupation:
    Professional Bum
    Home Page:
    Hamed wasn't exactly a natural featherweight, either.
     
  3. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2003
    Messages:
    9,078
    Likes Received:
    890
    Occupation:
    Professional Bum
    Home Page:
    He was a hard hitter with very good speed and reflexes, and one of the most unorthodox styles I have ever seen.

    He probably has gone from overrated at the time to underrated in retrospect. He beat some good fighters and titleholders, however even before he got lazier and good ole' Oscar Suarez did his usual anti-magic for a fighter, I'd still make Naz an underdog against the featherweights like Morales/Pac/MAB.
     
  4. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Messages:
    8,360
    Likes Received:
    76
    Great fighter.
    Substantial accomplishments.
    Underachiever.
     
  5. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,788
    Likes Received:
    0
    Home Page:
    he was an awesome fighter, but never beat a great champion in his prime. but then again, who was available during his reign?

    i thought he was pretty much done by the time he fought barrera. the guy was unbelievebly fast during his pre-championship years, and he pretty much deteriorated since the johnson fight.
     
  6. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2003
    Messages:
    15,331
    Likes Received:
    1
    A fighter:

    One of the hardest punching fighters EVER. Fast handed, very elusive in his Jnr Featherweight prime. Great recuperative powers. Limited because of his unorthodox style as MAB exposed.

    A Featherweight champion:

    I can't rate him at all as he only fought ONE of the FOUR great Featherweights of his era: Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao and Marquez....and he lost miserably to him.
     
  7. ArturoGatti

    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    16,580
    Likes Received:
    171
    Home Page:
    It's Hertz, not Hanzy.:rolleyes:
     
  8. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    May 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,387
    Likes Received:
    375
    Location:
    The No Spin Zone
    Home Page:
    Totally Spot On. I used to hate the Prince but now I miss him. He was great for the sport and a great fighter to root against. We need figures like him in the sport.
     
  9. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,235
    Likes Received:
    5,116
    My take as well. I never liked him, but i still was happy he was around at least for the entertainment value. He wasn't one of those guys i wished would just go away like Ruiz.
     
  10. The Cuban Hawk

    The Cuban Hawk WBC Champion

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2003
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    0
    Home Page:
    Hamed sucked. Just take a look at the video posted here, it says it all. There's a reason the guy quit like a bitch after what he showed in that fight. The guy had no skill whatsover.
     
  11. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    70,357
    Likes Received:
    5,868
    Occupation:
    Involved in hyperbole
    Location:
    Interzone
    Hamed was WAY on the downslide & infected by the rancid stink of Oscar Saurez's grubby little mits by the time Barrera got to him. Watch him get slapped around by Augie Sanchez, then stumble around for 12 rounds unable to do a damn THING with Manuel Calvo. Two utter bums. Two guys the Naz of 97,98 would have iced in 2 rounds.

    Hamed was a flawed fighter. All time great? not quite. But just to post a vid of him staggering around like a hen toed drunk against Barrera then dismiss him as someone who couldn't fight is like posting Benitez-Hilton and saying that Benitez was ass.
     
  12. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2003
    Messages:
    7,625
    Likes Received:
    2
    Occupation:
    None of your business
    Location:
    Allentown Pa
    Anyne here know why Hamed retired? He only has 1 loss?
     
  13. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2003
    Messages:
    9,078
    Likes Received:
    890
    Occupation:
    Professional Bum
    Home Page:
    One loss in 2001, then one win in 2002, and then retirement.

    Sounds familiar?

    I think Hamed just didn't care anymore and was happy with all the money he had. Then he went to jail for a little while.
     
  14. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2006
    Messages:
    8,401
    Likes Received:
    92
    Location:
    Ignoring knowledge and indulging in echolocation.
    :bears: Is that Michael Winslow in your av mate?
     
  15. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2003
    Messages:
    9,078
    Likes Received:
    890
    Occupation:
    Professional Bum
    Home Page:
    It's Sho-Nuff from The Last Dragon.

    I don't know his real name, but it's a different guy from the Police Academy series.
     
  16. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2003
    Messages:
    57,748
    Likes Received:
    4,278
    Location:
    CURTIS COKES' Birthplace...
    Hamed is the Classic Case of a Fighter who's Resume is NITPICKED Half to Death,N the Effort to Make him Look Bad...

    Here's the Names...

    Manuel Medina- MULTIPLE Time Feather Champ...
    Tom Johnson- The BEST of the Feather Champs,when Prince Beat him...
    Kevin Kelley- Former Feather Champ
    Wilfredo Vasquez- Former Jr. Feather AND Feather Champ
    Wayne McCullough- Former Bantam Champ
    Paul Ingle- Former Feather Champ
    Cesar Soto- Former Feather Champ
    Vuyani Bungu- Former Jr Feather Champ
    Marco Antonio Barrera- 3 Weight World Champ

    Fans will Say,this Guy was THIS,that Guy was THAT,but U Can Nitpick ANY Resume if U Put your Mind to It...Sugar Ray Robinson's, Joe Louis', Roberto Duran's,ANYBODYS...

    Peeps Loooooooooove the Say the Kevin Kelley was "Shot" when Prince Fought him,but the TRUTH Is,Kelley was 30 Years Old & Only had 1 Loss @ the Time...MORESO, 4 Years AFTER Prince Beat Kelley,it Took Erik Morales even MORE Rounds to Beat Kelley...& 3-4 Years AFTER THAT,it Took Barrera the SAME Length of Time to Beat Kelley...Shit,even TODAY,Kevin Kelley is STILL Upsetting Fighters...

    Bottom Line,Kevin Kelley WAS NOT "Shot" when Prince KO'ed him N 1 of THE GREATEST Featherweight Fights of All Times....

    Prince Took the WBO title from Steve Robinson,the IBF Title from Tom Johnson & the WBC Title from Cesar Soto...The WBA STRIPPED Wilfredo Vasquez for fighting Prince,but for All Intents & Purposes,he WAS the WBA Champ when Prince KO'ed him...

    Hamed Basically UNIFIED All 4 of the Major Sanctioning Bodies...The 1st Fighter to EVER Do that...

    Prince Made it FEASIBLE for Little Guys to Get Million Dollar Purses...EVERY Fighter from 130 lbs & BELOW should THANK Prince for Upping the Ante on THEIR Purses...

    Old School Fight Fans HATED Prince Cause of his UNORTHODOXY...Contemporary Fans HATED Prince Because of his Arrogance...REED Absolutely ADORED the Little Dude...

    REED has RARELY Felt the Level of Pre-Fight Excitement that Prince Bouts Generated...He was SPECIAL...

    Yeah,he Went Out like BITCH After the Barrera Fight,but "Greatness" is about DOMINANCE Over a Period of Time & IMPACT on your Era...w/Out Question,Prince did that...


    REED:cool:
     
  17. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,491
    Likes Received:
    13,174
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Bruce Leroy catches bullets with his teeth? CATCHES BULLETS WITH HIS TEETH? Nigga please!:lol:
     
  18. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2003
    Messages:
    57,748
    Likes Received:
    4,278
    Location:
    CURTIS COKES' Birthplace...
    "SHO-GUN of Harlem"


    REED:lol:
     
  19. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Messages:
    8,360
    Likes Received:
    76
    Very well put.
     
  20. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    Because he realized how limited he was when he faced a really good fighter and got his ass beat, he knew had he stayed, he was gonna eventually savagely get knocked the fuck out, so the bat-eared midget pussy had no other choice but to bail from the game altogether.

    :lol:
     
  21. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    Lol, a lot of "former" champions on that list, lol.

    It's a shit list of former has beens and paper champs, lol.

    Guess what? Barrera was a lot more ring worn than all those guys, yet he's the one who battered the bat-eared midget, lol.

    :lol:
     
  22. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    Prime Manny P vs prime bat-eared midget = comatose bat-eared midget.

    :lol:
     
  23. Hanzy

    Hanzy "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,375
    Likes Received:
    1
    :bears:
    <object height="350" width="425">

    <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/--N1Q8D6dqE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="350" width="425"></object>
     
  24. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2003
    Messages:
    3,447
    Likes Received:
    0
    that's true, unless manny got caught with something crazy I think his pressure would overwhelm Hamed who lacked fundamental skills.

    I think Hamed could have been pretty good. I think he had great power and was incredibly athletic. But he just didn't care enough to become a better fighter.
     
  25. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,491
    Likes Received:
    13,174
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Thats truly a MYTHICAL matchup cause Princess would have never came within a million miles of Pacman. Manny would kicked his ass all over the ring. Instead, if Hamhead was around today, he'd probably feast on someone extremely limited like Juarez.
     
  26. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2006
    Messages:
    8,576
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Six Feet Below Where You Walk
    Home Page:
    What a bunch of immature fucks you lot have turned out to be.
     
  27. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    55,491
    Likes Received:
    13,174
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Why cause we're not dickriding Hamed? Hamed was a great puncher, but not a great fighter. In a historical sense I'd pick him over someone like Barry McGugian, Danny Lopez, or maybe Fennech, but he gets wasted by cats like Sanchez, Pedroza, Nelson, Arguello, Pac, prime Morales, ect.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2007
  28. Rabid Kimba

    Rabid Kimba "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    5,259
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, starting with your dumbass.

    :lol:
     
  29. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2006
    Messages:
    7,736
    Likes Received:
    917
    I liked hamed and he was defintively a dominant champ for a while, but no way in hell he's in an ATG, not even close.
     
  30. Mean Mr Mustard

    Mean Mr Mustard "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    5,689
    Likes Received:
    0
    I rate Naseem Hamed as follows:
    a) Fighter: 6/10 (got up off the canvas enough times to continue)
    b) Featherweight Champion: 0/10 (champions don't quit after one defeat)
    c) Media-Hype: 10/10
    d) Muslim Fundamentalist: (undecided)
     

Share This Page