RATE NASEEM HAMED AS {A} A Fighter {B} A Featherweight Champion.

:: Just messin'. I do agree with Tam though... it was not the blow-out that Lampley and crew would have you believe during the fight.

 

Exactly. He was beaten and beaten clean...embarrassed because of his mouth and the attitude he brought to the ring. Not on the scorecards or with the action that took place. The legal action anyway.

He obviously bothered Barrera a few times. He broke Marco's nose as well from memory. Maybe Marco busted that in the dressing room though.

 

I don't know about lampley and crew, I watched the Sky broadcast, who were of course wedged up hamed's rectum.

 

:dunno:

 

Didn't see that post, mate. I can't tell you right now. I'm sitting in a coffee shop, drinking and eating lunch. I might watch the fight over the weekend or something.

 

Fair enough. I am serious though, I would be interested.

 

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Exactly. Trinidad beat many world class, in their prime fighters before he finally called it quits.

Haveeb got his ass kicked by the only one he faced. He was like a snake oil salesman who got caught selling tap water. He put away his tent of tricks and ran away with the money.

 

:: :: ::

 

Hamed won 3 rounds versus Barrera.

Trinidad won 1 round against Hopkins (the first), and that was a close round.

 

He knew it in the dressing room before the fight (all that shit about checking out the gloves), on the way to the ring and for sure when for the 1st time ever, failed to flip over the ropes into the ring.
That guy knew he was beaten.

 

Let's recap on Hamed's opponents from the time he became a title-holder:
Steve Robinson: (not even worthy of being called a 'bum')

Said Lawal: see, above.

Daniel Alicea: bum who dropped Hamed.

Manuel Medina: feather-fisted, but decent feather who tagged Hamed a lot (that's when folks started to say, 'imagine what Barerra would've done here' )

Remigio Molina: bum.

Tom Johnson: great featherweight, but in the same category as Pedroza when McGuigan beat him: 32 years old and on-the-slide.

Billy Hardy: Oliver Hardy.

Juan Cabrera: bum.

Jose Badillo: bum.

Kevin Kelley: on-the-slide or not? But anyway,first decent fight and everyone sees the wheels clearly come off the Hamed-Bandwagon here. If there was any doubts about Hamed's validity as a boxer - it's here.

Wilfredo Vazquez: 40 years old? Older?

Wayne McCullough: ahhhh, yes....the first of the 'you're a bantamweight-who-can't-punch-why don't-you-move-up-and-fight-me?'.

Paul Ingle: not a bum, but definately categorized as 'workmanlike'.

Cesar Soto: now I admit, this was a step in the right direction, and Hamed wasn't entirely to blame in this horrid little affair.

Vuyani Bungu: another 'you're a bantamweight-who-can't-punch-why don't-you-move-up-and-fight-me?'. (I think Simes actually jerked off after seeing this fight.)

Augie Sanchez: bum.

Guys he avoided (or rather who Warren kept him away from for whatever reasons): Hector Lizaragga, Luisito Espinosa, Junior Jones, Kennedy McKinney, Istvan Kovaks, Juan Manuel Marquez, Freddie Norwood,

Which leads us to the fight with Marco Antonio Barrera. And I bet hardly anyone remembers that his piece of shit brother, Riath, picked a matchup Barrera instead of Morales following their first war cos:
a) he thought he was the more damaged out of the two as a result, and
b) even though Morales won that fight, the Hamed Camp still went after Barerra?!?

The proof of the pudding is in the documentary, 'Big Fight, Little Prince' - if you haven't seen it and you want to know what Hamed was all about....then that's the reference point.

 

I do notice that the posters who seem to agree with you (me too btw) tend to say that Hamed was a pretty solid champ, but could have been better etc and then they move on to another topic. However the guys who disagree really seem to HATE him and can't let it go. They do mainly sound like children and come across as spiteful and bitter as if the guy still threatens them or something.

It's not as if Hamed is being overrated and needs a bunch of negative trolling. He's pretty much underrated if anything.

 

Istvan Kovacs?:laughing: ::

Come on now, he got wasted by Chacon and even though he was skilled and accomplished as an amateur, Kovacs wasn't accomplished enough as a pro to be "ducked". And anyway, he's guilty of the same crime as Hamed, calling it quits after his first loss. It's funny that you bash Hamed for quitting after his first loss but list Kovacs as a "deserving guy" he ducked.

 

What cracks me up here is that a lot of people that talk shit about Hamed were probably the ones that were OUTRAGED when the Barrera fight was made. I remember people were saying he was ducking Morales and calling out another Bantamweight, few people picked Barrera to beat him. It's kind of paradoxal to be outraged at this fight and call Hamed a fraud a few years after because it shows the perception people had of Hamed back then, they knew he was an upper echelon fighter because most people tought Barrera, who was already seen as a very accomplished fighter back then, was a gimme, especially his haters.

 

With the benefit of hindsight it's so easy to say. Today, it seems like EVERYBODY knew MAB would school Hamed, yet Hamed was a 3-1 favourite... Same for Tito-Hopkins, EVERYBODY knew Hopkins would school him, yet Tito a was clear favourite. I'm not ashamed to say I picked Hamed and Tito to win, but I might be the only one in this thread... A lot of people here are fucking full of shit.

 

Actually Mexican Radio and I were part of the "Haveeb gets his ass kicked by MAB bandwagon" on SecondsOut.com and SIMES kept trying to bully me into making a $5,000 bet. ::

I wasn't 100% sure about my pick, neither did I have $5,000 at the time but I clearly picked Barrera against Haveeb when all the Haveeb fanboys were talking about 1st or 2nd round knockout. I just didn't see someone who got rocked and dropped by Augie Sanchez knocking out MAB ever.

 

Then you surely remember the outrage of some posters that were taking Hamed's victory for granted, saying that Barrera was close to shot, did get knocked out by Jr. Jones and was just another bantam with no punch. You certainly were in the minority back then.

 

Maybe you need to look into the background of the guy who first KO'd Barrera before you brag about this insight.

 

Yeah of course. Basically on SO's, it was every person from the U.K talking about how Barrera was a face first brawler and Naz would get him in the first 4 rounds tops. It was Mexican Radio, myself, and Everlast who were telling them that this wasn't going to be an easy fight and we got hell just for that.

In fact, I was on the other end of a debate about Barrera back then too. The entire U.K crew was saying how Richie Wenton was going to beat Barrera by TKO or wide decision. :laughing:

Their excuse was, "He beat Too Sharp before and Too Sharp is twice the boxer barrera is." :laughing:

Man Barrera got hated on back then.

 

Stop following me around the boards. I already replied to your PM and I'm not gay.

 

That was a dq.:nono:

 

Impressive. Not one thing in your post was true.

 

Then why are you following me right now? :dunno:

Face it, you want to man-love me. :eeeek:

 

No one who has seen the fight would try to argue this technicality.

 

miKE doesn't know much about boxing. I'm not surprised he can't even get a simple bout result correct.

Maybe he should watch Nascar, boxing is too difficult for him to understand. ::

 

Come on dude, Barrera was on queer street when his trainer stepped in the ring to save him. Seriously, anyone that tries to argue that Barrera wasn't out and could have continued seriously need to give himself a good slap in the face.

 

It was the end of the round basically, and had MAB gotten the one minute to recover, who knows what would've happened? :dunno:

 

If his trainer didn't believe in him enough to let him beat the count, what makes you think Barrera would have been able to recover? I mean, Jones was tagging him a lot throughout the first four rounds, it wasn't an out of nowhere shot here, Jones had Barrera figured out and IMO, even IF, and that's a big IF, Barrera beat the count and ended the round on his feet, I doubt he would have been able to finish the fight without being Knocked out.