Ray Leonard Claims He Was Sexually Abused

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  1. Hut*Hut

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    DURAN! DURAN! DURAN! DURAN! :cheer:
     
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    And it's reasons like the quote above why Ray Leonard should have kept his mouth shut about all of this.:lol:
     
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    This sexual assault enhances Duran's legacy.
     
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    I hear you man. I hear you.
     
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    Yep, victims should keep their mouths shut because it helps predators when they do. Predators should never be brought to justice. Why would anyone want to publicize this? It could lead to something bad like other victims coming forward and maybe pressing charges. Why would anybody want to do that?
     
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    Duran would have yelled NO MAS and faked a stomach cramp
     
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    Does Ray speaking out about this 40 years later and not mentioning the name of the coach really help anyone? Did you consider this before you attempted to be clever?
     
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    It could. If a great athlete is brave enough to talk about it, then perhaps other people who know about such or have experienced it also open their mouth and stop worrying about their 'manhood'. Telling names won't help much, telling that this stuff happens just might.
     
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    Sorry Hut you are just wrong on this one. 17 years old is one year shy of being a man. He knew right away it was wrong. It should have never went past that man unzipping his own pants. This is a ridiculous story. And Ray should keep quiet about it, not because it compromises his manhood (ridiculous argument by sly) but because it makes Ray look like a fucking retard.
     
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    Actually it may help other people since anybody involved would know exactly to whom he was referring. Maybe he wanted to see if others had the same issues. It's never too late to bring someone to justice for sexual assault. I considered a lot before I made my post, including the courage it takes to speak out about this kind of thing---especially when some moron comes along and says he shouldn't say anything.

    The ol' he-should-have-kept-quiet response is what a lot of predators rely on from their victims, which is why I thought your post was deserving of sarcasm.

    "Just keep quiet about it. Why bring it up now?" What a stupid thing to say! Would you want your children to stay silent if something like this happened?

    You know, sly. I remember you talking about how you were chased when you were a kid living in England. Maybe you should have kept quiet about it.:nono:

    If the victims speak out, they might be helping someone else who is too afraid to do so. Having a celebrated athlete like Ray come out with this could encourage others who suffered through this type of crime.
     
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    I think it makes Ray look like a scared and confused teenager---which is what he would have been at the time.
     
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    blah blah blah

    The dude should have kept his mouth shut. He just looks like a pussy now. :giggle:
     
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    You say "retard" I say "compromising his manhood". We mean the same thing in the context of this revelation.
     
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    Such compassion from a believer of God. :finger:
     
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    Have to agree with you. Could a 17 or 18 year Ray have knocked that guy out with a jab? Probably, but a big part of everything is psychological.

    This was a guy that Ray obviously respected, relied on, an authority figure that obviously had a psychological hold over Ray.

    Ray probably was too shocked and confused to react.
     
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    Exactly. The relationship's basically structured parent-child or even more unbalanced. The coach tells Ray what to do, Ray does it. The coach gives advice, states opinions, Ray listens. Ray says something the coach doesn't like, Ray does press ups. There's years of day to day precedent in how they relate to each other, far too many for a kid to just start kicking fuck out the guy spontaneously, no matter what. In salesman speak he's at the top of humungous 'yes ladder'.

    Even between hetrosexual adults, this kind of thing is often a sackable offence (Doctors, lecturers etc) - massive abuse of power and influence. :shit:
     
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    So he got his wanky sucked on by an old fart. Big deal.
    Ray should have grabbed his ears and said "take the whole thing, bitch!"
     
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    You're only gay if you take it.:lol:
     
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    Honestly there is no excuse for letting a man blow you.
     
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    If my own dad tried to blow me i dont care if i was 7, 8, , 15 or 17, i would have kicked his fucking ass. I was always taught to never let an adult touch you in a harmful way.
     
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    He didn't, he ran out.
     
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    so his manhood isn't compromised?
     
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    Some people are paralyzed by fear or shock---particularly when they are assaulted by someone they trust and/or fear. It's not like Ray paid the guy $20 afterwards.

    I think some of you don't realize just how scared or in shock a kid could be---even if the kid is a teenager.
     
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    Sounds like you're speaking from experience so I'd take your word for it.
     
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    Allot of silly macho talk and deliberate ignorance in this thread.
     
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    No, his brain is. He sounds like he was a stupid 17 year old. After knowing this news, i dont see Ray as any less of a man.
     
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    after it was in his mouth
     

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