Ray Leonard vs Pernel Whitaker

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Hut*Hut, Jul 7, 2010.

  1. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Pretty much... Leonard misses a lot more than usual but wins a decision
     
  2. Do you think Leonard would have stopped Mayweather at 147lbs like so many others do?
     
  3. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    If Mayweather opened up? Yeah ... I don't think Mayweather would though

    Sweet Pea beats your boy, too
     
  4. Sweet Pea vs Mayweather is a pick'em by any objective measure. No reasonable man can say definitively who would win. It's not like pernell Whitaker has fought a guy with Floyd's style and abilities before and the reverse is also true.
     
  5. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    He's definitely a more proven welterweight...
     
  6. Pea's a more proven Wekterweight than Floyd? How so?
     
  7. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Fought way better opposition
     
  8. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Looked better getting jobbed against the prime Hoya than Floyd did tepidly decisioning the old, tired version
     
  9. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    He embarrassed Castillo's father
     
  10. I can argue that Floyd had a bad night and yet still won 8 of 12 rounds in his first fight at jnr middle against the defending champion who had destroyed Mayorga and was in no way old or tired, in fact he was highly motivated.

    We can play these games all night, Mr Hunter, but I don't have the luxury of your presumptions . ;)

    Pea never fought quartey, lost to Trinidad ( I feel another excuse coming), lost to de la Hoya beat Chavez who was getting older and was moving up in weight anyway.

    Mayweather beat Judah, de la Hoya, hatton, cotto, Canelo, Mosley.....

    Gimme a break. Gimme a fucking break!
     
  11. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Hoya was old and way past his best... Realistically 1-3 in his previous 4 fights with one win against punching bag Mayorga lol

    WHITAKER was past prime against the prime Hoya

    There's zero comparison unless you are Floyd's authorized biographer
     
  12. Whitaker was 33 when he fought de la Hoya . Yeah that's an old man abut to collapse from heart failure. How old was Floyd when he fought young hungry undefeated lion Canelo? 36?

    In conclusion: fuck your silly argument.
     
  13. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Ah yes, the JOM age fallacy

    Lol Canelo the legend
     
  14. I'd stack up Floyd's 7 best defeated welterweight and above opponents against Whitaker's any day with the exception of Hurtado of course. That guy was the reincarnation of Ray Robinson.
     
  15. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    I know you would and people would laugh like when you attempted to make Corrales into Hearns ... Your bias in favor of Floyd is comical
     
  16. Please. I never said corrales was as good as Hearns . You know that and so does everyone else. I said Corrales being a co champion and undefeated and being seen as the next best in his division and his most formidable rival and being significantly taller, made corrales his Hearns equivalent in terms of taking on that challenge. I had brought this up in response to those moron who claim that Floyd always ducked the toughest opponents.

    The fact that you're trying to spin it into something else tells me that you're getting desperate now.

    Remember, you're dealing with the Sly One. You have to bring your A game when dealing with me. ;)
     
  17. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    You were attempting to compare Mayweather facing Corrales to Leonard facing Hearns as if these things have the same value
     
  18. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    They were both taller fighters who punched hard so it's exactly the same.
     
  19. Lol. Ok I have to assume you're trolling now as no one smart could be that ignorant.
     
  20. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Lol exactly
     
  21. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I get sly's point. Although I don't think anyone ever accused floyd of cherry picking until at least 140 so it's kinda moot!
     
  22. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    broadway joe RIP

    ramonza RIP
     
  23. Hopefully broadwayjoe is indeed dead. He's a waste of space on this planet with his closet homosexual self.
     
  24. See, I don't think moving up to 154lbs when you've barely gotten used to the 147lb limit and taking on De La Hoya in his first fight since destroying Mayorga can be classified as cherry picking. That's why some of you seemingly smart guys boggle my mind at times. Lol

    Undefeated Ricky Hatton at a time when he was a honafide top 5 pound for pounder is not cherry picking. Fighting undefeated Canelo Alvarez after the latter beat Trout, Lara and Mosley is not cherry picking.

    What, he should have fought Margarito and Cintron, waa waa waa?

    Some of you guys can be real ignorant cunts at times. Lol
     
  25. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    :wtf1:
     
  26. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

    A perfectly Christian approach.

    MTF :lol:
     
  27. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

    Fighting Hatton, a fighter who relied almost entirely on being massively heavier and stronger than his opponents, at 147, where he basically lost by KO to Collazo in his only previous fight there, is a bit different to fighting him at 140, no?

    MTF
     
  28. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Exactly. Nobody can criticize PBF for what he did below 140. At 140 and upward, it's a whole different story
     
  29. Didn't Hagler fight mugabi and Duran and Hearn and Leonard at weights they were notnoriginally in? Tyson fought spinks. Leonard fought Duran. Pryor fought arguello.

    Y'all acting like this is something new. Judge all the others the same way then.
     
  30. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Most of Mugabi's pre-Hagler fights were at middleweight
     

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