RETURN OF THE MAGNIFICENT 7

Mystery solved. :doh:

 

I knew this anyway, but what i'm getting at is DeGale will become a legend also.

Makes it all the better having DeGale fighting out of West London and being a QPR fan.

The stuff dreams are made of.

 

Elterriblee, no word of a lie, if DeGale and Abraham fought tomorrow, DeGale wins.

 

I've read he's a QPR fan, also read he's a gooner, so not too sure. Definitely Cookys cousin though

 

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/tv-online-spotlight-on-james-degale-mbe

Nooooooooooo, just read this. This more or less confirms he is a Gunners fan. QPR must be his second team. I'll accept that. ::

 

It's all good. Elterriblee come on man you know it, DeGale sparks Abraham mate, just come to terms with it. He's chunky, he's chunky

 

He supports both my fellow R, fear not:

http://www.realbuzz.com/blogs/u/James_DeGale/james-degale-s-blog/posts/traffic-jam-tastic/

 

De Gale's a sex bomb.

 

By Abraham I am assuming they mean this guy:

 

It's incredible....small, slow, no power {15 KO's in 29 fights at that level is NO POWER], cut prone Paul Smith, a guy who could do nothing, not a thing, with the same broken down Tony Dodson that Froch stopped with one bodyshot, is now the litmus test for greatness. DeGale didn't even have the guy down or smashed up and the one cut he managed was off a head clash.

People fail to realise that whilst the UK has had some outstanding 168lb fighters it has also had an awful lot of middling pretentious dross, guys like Dean Francis, Henry Wharton, Ray Close, David Stairie, Glenn Catley etc. I would put Paul "Can't Hit For Shit" Smith at the VERY BOTTOM of that gang of middling bens.

I'm serious, getting a referee's intervention against Smith, a guy who had lost to somebody called Steven Bendall is to boxing significance what a chav robbing an old lady is to the Thomas Crown Affair. Not really the same sort of level, at all.

DeGale may well add up to something but beating Paul Smith won't be the foundation of it.

 

Please Irish.

It's no different to people realising calzaghes potential when he went into delaneys backyard and won the british title there. EXACTLY the same thing, no one has said Delaney or smith are world beaters but they are tough tests at that stage of their careers. It's about the manner of the victory. What's more Calzaghe had more professional experience when he done it. So did Hatton. People should quit with the nitpicking and realise we have an incredible talent on our hands here.

 

Starie was better by far than any of the other rubbish in that list. Horrible as hell to watch but borderline world-class on his game IMHO...

Anyway, I don't think Slice is claiming that Degale is great because of the win over Smith. It's because of the potential the kid has (and because he may or may not be a QPR fan)

MTF ::

 

Stairie lost to Crawford Ashley who was sort of world class himself, but Glenn Catley did win a world title and I wouldn't book him as being anywhere near the level of guys like Watson, Graham.

Slice has been chiming in more and more on DeGale ever since the Smith fight, so I think the Smith fight has a lot to do with his recent enthusiasm.

 

My God, Mitchell really is a fucking dull cunt. How that bastard ever got a book shortlisted for an award is beyond me. Of course, he made half of that book up anyways, just like the tit who wrote The Damned United.

Wladimir Klitschko has a "history of choking"???

This is the sort of ignorance I hate. Not because it is ignorant per se, but because this fucking cunt, Mitchell, wants us to believe that Khan has earned redemption and that, and I quote, the Breidis Prescott debacle must "never be mentioned again".

How can he say Wlad has a history of choking, and that this gives/gave Chisora a chance, and then tell us in the next breath that Khans wobble-fest with Maidana has so utterly removed the stench of the Prescott fight that none of us should mention it again??


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Fucking pathetic.

 

Exactly. I defy anyone to find an opponent in Mayweather or De la Hoya or Roy Jones or Joe Calzaghe's first 9 fights better than Paul Smith.

 

Paul Smith is rubbish. So Chunky fought some rubbish earlier than the others. Like an early rising dustman or something.

 

The Smith fight was big for me because it is awakening alot of people to his potential, but I have been championing DeGales cause for a while now mate. We have had a few discussions about him before if I recall correctly.

 

What is the biggest name on Smiths resume?

I'll tell you: DeGales.

And he lost that.

Smith is a terrible professional fighter.

 

What the flying fuck are you talking about? He was a British Champion. He's a british level fighter, nobodies saying he's more than that. It's De Gale's 9th fight.

 

One of the worst of all times.

We can draw a very simple conclusion here: DeGale is obviously the best fighter ever, or Smith is useless.

 

There have been far worse British champions than Paul Smith. I'd venture he's better than Thaxton

 

Thaxton went the distance with Hatton, and cut him.

My point was very simple: there is nothing to suggest that DeGale would beat Abraham, off the back of a win over Paul Smith. Paul Smith really is that limited. DeGale might win a few rounds but come on...we don't know what is chin is like and we've not seen him come back from adversity. A lot of this talk is premature, real Frank Moroney talk, "Oh Lennox when he was 6 would have beaten both Klitschkos" etc that sort of stuff, miles over the top.

 

He went the distance with Hatton...so? DeGale looks a far more promising prospect to me than Hatton did at the same stage of his career.

Also, I don't base my beating Abraham prediction on the back of the Smith win, I base it on the fact I think DeGale is better, and that Abraham really isn't that good.

 

You are starting to pull the tendon off the bone here. I am talking Paul Smith vs Abraham in terms of a test. Yet you keep on factoring in this superficially attractive figure of 9 pro fights.

By way of Comparison, Abraham, in his own 9th fight, fought and KO'd 18-5 Branco Sobot, the man Joe Calzaghe had taken on in the first defence of his WBO title. If Chunky is fighting and beating fighters for the IBF title by his 20th fight, you be sure and let me know!!

Abraham isn't that good but he sent Taylor into retirement, beat and stopped Miranda, went the distance with Froch {terrible performance I know but would Chunky go the distance, just la dat?} and was really really in the fight vs Dirrell at the time of the DQ.

Come on.

Chunky would go in there, get hurt for the first time in his life and get stopped. Not off talent, per se, but off the intangibles- experience, heart, chin, know-how, durability.

 

Nice read.

 

DeGale vs Froch would surely happen in the near future?

 

Obviously Abraham is a big step up from Smith, and that Abraham would be favourite right now. My point is, I believe DeGales skill level has reached such a point (and has MUCH further to go), and Abraham has such a lack of versatility, that I actually think Chunky could win it if they fought tomorrow. He would be my pick as well.

Big statement, sure. But he is THAT good in my eyes, and without blowing my own trumpet I'm generally a pretty good judge of a fighters level. In a year or so's time, this fight won't even be an afterthought, his skillset is way above AA's.

By the way, I wouldn't pick him right now against any other top guy, just Abraham :stir:

 

DeGale and Froch will never fight.

By the time DeGale is ready for that sort of a fight, Froch will be well and truly retired, living in Sherwood, and sunk to the nuts in some home restoration project.

 

Skill has nothing to do with it. My contention is that DeGale wouldn't know what do do when Abraham inevitably bounced his brain off one side of his skull and onto the other.

Skill didn't cost Wladimir Klitscko vs Purritty. Experience did.

After only 9 fights, Chunky would zig when he shoulda zagged and walk into something. Once he did that, he wouldn't have the savvy to survive.