Return of the Scottish King

Glad I did not watch it. Anyways a shame to see a decent boxer piss it away making weight and drinking alcohol.

 

He never recovered from that beating lopez laid on him

 

His skills might have eroded a bit, but he was pretty mediocre to start with

 

Yeah, if it was 25 years ago, I think Taylor is below Chop Chop Corley level.

 

Over on Eastside, most guys are saying Taylor belongs in the HOF.

 

Hall of Farmers

 

Taylor: "Bring me the Greek"

 

Taylor was never anything special.
He overachieved despite having average skill

 

That's special in itself.

 

Taylor had a good arsenal, knew how to use being a southpaw - which is why he struggled so much against other southpaws imo - and was a crafty counter puncher with good timing. He could go forward too, quite well, especially for his long frame. At one point, he was physically decent too, with fast, sharp shots, a good engine and a good chin. He got tagged easily and marked up on often too, though.

It's a shame how he turned out, at one point he was very clearly the best in Britain and definitely a P4P guy, but his fall off was crazy. I'm not sold on the first Catteral fight being a robbery, but it doesn't matter now. Cat got the rematch, and Taylor is done. He was never a threat to Crawford or Spence, and I definitely overrated him in historical match-ups.

 

I still think Regis shit the bed in letting Taylor beat him. To me, Prograis looked the better, more skilled fighter; Josh beat him on pure desire that night. Regis choked. Bottled it. However you wanna describe it.

Once Taylor lost his desire, he became average. If you make Jack Catt look like Whitaker, your skills are lacking.

 

You did overrate him in historical matchups, Georgie. I remember you saying Taylor stop Cotto.

All good. We've all been there.

I'll admit one too... at Spence's peak I said I'd pick him over a prime DLH.

In retrospect, nahhh... a prime Oscar would fuck Spence up.

 

Spence would do very well against delahoya who was always trash vs southpaws

If you're talkin post accident spence then yea he'd lose to delahoya

 

I was pretty neutral with Taylor whom I’ve always admired when he was coming up and eventually became the top 140 fighter for a spell but never saw anything special that would make him a threat at 147. He certainly had above average skills and he used his size to his advantage to win fights but there wasn’t anything that made him stand out other than a higher workrate boxer puncher. He seemed to have lost his desire ever since the first Caterall fight. I did favor him to beat a hot and cold Teofimo Lopez but it seemed like Lopez’s skills and talents were too great for Taylor. Never thought he would fizzle out so quickly.

He’ll most likely get in the IBHOF eventually (especially considering the low standards they have now) but by no means is he an ATG. He’ll be known as the guy who was the top fighter in a not so great division for a brief moment and nothing more. Kinda like Donald Curry in a way, although Curry was light years ahead of Taylor.

 

Yeah the PR got me

 

I dont wanna change the subject from Taylor, but I feel any version of Spence is gonna be overwhelmed by Oscar's handspeed and power.

Does prime Spence give Oscar some problems? Yes. But I think he gets caught and stopped in the end.

Spence gets stopped by Oscar, Trinidad, Mosley, and Quartey imo.

He has a good chance against Forrest.

 

I don't think Taylor is ever making the IHOF. I'd be surprised. Not popular enough, resume not deep enough.

Remember, a guy like Sergio Martinez still hasn't made the Hall, and Martinez's resume was far better than Taylor's.

 

Martinez is definitely getting in eventually. Donald Curry and Michael Nunn had to wait a long time for their chance and they got in. Josh Taylor is borderline for me but I still think he’ll make his way in at some point.

I’m more shocked that Meldrick Taylor hasn’t been considered yet. Far more worthy than Vinny Pazienza.

 

Yeah, there's no way taylor makes the hof, even though the standards to be inducted have plummeted

 

Taylor is way better than that chump pazienza. That's the new bar to get in

 

Paz is American and was a mainstream name. The HOF is without question American biased. Miles Teller played him in a recent movie (which I never bothered to watch).

Taylor doesn't have the popularity to make it. He's not even a big star in the UK.

The only UK fighters who have made it in recent years have been Hatton and Froch. Both those guys' resumes shit on Taylor's, and Hatton was a superstar, so of course he was gonna make it.

You cant make the HOF when your career defining win is a close decision victory over Prograis.

 

Not saying he will or won't get in but he was better than pazienza with better wins

 

Prograis was even more overrated than Taylor.

 

He was a fuckin brick wall. Ask stinger

 

Theres no way in Hell Regis was "more" overrated Taylor, because he didn't have a fraction of the hype. I dont recall anyone ever hyping Prograis to be an ATG; certainly not me, and I was his biggest fan on here.

I thought Regis was the best junior welter in the world for a stretch, that was the extent of it. The pussy that is Jose Ramirez ducked Regis, that's for damn sure.

But even at Regis' peak, I said that he had no chance against the likes of Crawford and Spence.

It's different for Taylor, because he gained a much bigger and more delusional fanbase, and most of his fanbase was saying he could beat Crawford. They were saying that all the way from when he beat Prograis, up until the point when Catt exposed his lack of skill.

 

I always backed Taylor and hoped he'd win just because it was well cool having a 4 belt champ from Scotland but I agree with this assessment

 

Yep, Paz was the 1st REAL American Fighter of Italian Heritage to Make a Mark During the “Rocky” Era, if REED’s Not Mistaken.

A Charismatic, Successful Italian was a Magnet for Mainstream Attention, On the Heels of “Rocky”.



REED

 

Uh, Mancini?

 

EXCELLENT Catch Doub...REED Was Indeed Mistaken...


REED

 

On That Note, Mancini IS in the HOF Also....Right???...



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