Riddick Bowe "planning comeback" in 2012. Wants the Klitschko's

He could fight Michael Grant

 

Bowe should contact Gerry Cooney or somebody at the F*I*S*T foundation. He shouldn't fight anyone. This could be another Greg Page in the making, and to mention nothing of the personal tragedies that could befall Bowe, the maggots in the papers would be all over it too.

 

Well, when comparing him at his best vs. other fighters, you'd obviously go with the trim, energetic Bowe from the first Holyfield fight. You didn't know that?

 

It's all clear to me now, Loadedgloves is black and doesn't like white people.

 

Okay, and his prime ended when???

You see, if Bowe had dominated Golota and then fallen apart physically I could buy the theory about the weight loss. Instead he was dominated from the off and actually came INTO the fight a bit more as it went on. That doesn't happen with drained fighters. That's not the normal curve or chain of events. In any event, the drainage we associate with collapse, neurological and physical, occurs where guys are taking off weight that isn't really there to begin with, water and lean tissue, which can sometimes be as bad as lean heart-tissue.

It pays to stick to boxing logic. Boxing logic has always held that if the jab can be established, everything else works off that. Once Golota got the left off, which had as much to do with Golota having a good left as it did with the contents of Riddicks tummy, that set the tone. Bowe didn't like the right hands that followed.

Bowes prime could never be reclaimed after the first Golota fight. By the second Golota fight he was utterly finished, shot to pieces.

Was he past his best when they fought? Maybe, maybe not. The problem is his best was so rarely displayed. We are told to believe that he had one fight in his prime, I don't believe that. I don't believe that making weight for the Golota fight ruined him. I don't believe that making weight for the Hide fight ruined him.

 

Ah yes, right on cue...some confrontational jibberish from the angry Muslim.

MTF :bears:

 

Unlike Pac, Lewis retired around age 40

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Nah. He's Pakistani and doesn't like people.

 

I'm not black & I have zero problems with white people.

 

fixed

(in fairness, that's 99% of people)

 

He doesn't like people, full stop. He is one angry little man.

MTF

 

He could have easily "gotten into shape" and picked up a cool $20m for a few rounds work. He was after all younger than Vitali is now or when Foreman beat Moorer. If it was such a sure thing, such a handy number, why didn't he do it???

And 37 is no more to a heavyweight than 31 is to a former flyweight.

Being plainly honest Fibbles......I think Lewis didn't fancy it. Not saying he "Knew" he was going to lose, nothing like that, I just think he didn't see it working out any easier for him second time around.

 

:laughing:

 

Typical fundamentalist sentiment. Wanna see my foreskin? I got mad tickle-tackle baby. Heavy folds.

 

Just checking. :truce:

 

He was nearly forty, man. Boxing fans are a funny lot: we all rag on fighters who hang around too long and end up like Ali yet, when a guy retires on top and it is clear to him and everyone else that he is slipping, he gets stick for calling it a day?

Your point would be more valid if Lewis had retired then come back at ANY stage to fight anyone else. He didn't- he got old, out of shape, unmotivated and so he packed it in.

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Additionally; Vitali may be older now but he could fight to 45 against the sheer human detruous he is facing at present. Foreman turned into a massive blob and hit Moorer with a Hail Mary. Neither are shining examples of why Lewis should have stayed active.

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It was one fight. We weren't asking him to give us 15 rounds in Manila. And its not like he retired immediately. It took a full year for him to free up the belt, close-as makes no difference. So he was thinking about it, it seems to me.

Likewise I agree that he should stay retired in any case.

 

"stayed active" is one thing. Taken ONE more fight for very specific reasons, is a different thing. Maybe he felt that if he won and looked bad that it could have reflected on him, or if he lost he could have been dragged into a rubber-match scenario.

 

He probably was thinking about it: there was a lot of money in a rematch as we all know. A decision like that isn't one you make overnight. But IMO he made a very senisble decision- how many other great or good HW's have Lewis' faculties?

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You are being pedantic. The only reason to take a rematch was money. Lewis is reportedly worth £100m: what motivation is money at that age?

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Well Wlad and Vitali do.

Retired? Very few. Riddick is crunchy. Golota was talented, maybe doesn't fall into your bracket but I'd say he is neurologically sound. Botha wasn't good and is probably punchy by now. Briggs was average, is average, and has his faculties. Holy is crunchy. Toney is well crunchy. Roy Jones is crunchier than a Crunchy found inside a box of Crunchy Nut Cornflakes that I am crunching underfoot. Mike might be OK, neurologically, but he's full of transmitters and neurons from the tablets so who the fuck knows what goes on with that. Frazier is dead. Ali is getting that way. Foreman is probably cool. Holmes seems a bit crunchy, probably just slowed down.

Lewis is fat, balding and has no charm and a bad choice of hats, but other than that he is sharp.

 

Maybe. I don't know. I feel Lewis had a think about it, reckoned that Vitali might be on the up-and-up, and made the smart decision to just pack it in. Don't get me wrong, I have very few beefs with Lewis, I do feel he plays the "i took it on 2 weeks notice" thing a bit unilaterally, also he could have vacated and fucked off. The division stagnated after he left but he kick-started it with his procrastinations.

 

Precisely. Lewis fought Holy x2, Mike, Mercer, Morrison, Vitali, Bruno, McCall x2 et al and retired champion, rich and in perfect control of his mental faculties. He cannot be criticised for that IMO.

And Wlad and Vitali could fight another ten years and never suffer any physical detriment: the hopeless, fat, human punch-bags masquerading as 'challengers' nowadays haven't landed a glove on either of them in about six years.

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We agree at last...

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I don't know if Bowe would win but he'd push the pace and not let Vitali hold on the inside. Bowe was a great inside fighter for his bodytype. The longer the fight is the better chance Vitaly has though. We have to remember Vitali breaks you down and stops you late. People call me crazy but if the Lewis fight were to play out without the cut I'm sure Vitali would have stopped him in the 10 or 11th round.

 

Bowe's 2012 comeback could end in disaster before even meeting a klitschko.

 

I think Vitali's pretty good

his little brother is chinless debutante, but Vitali, weird style and arm punches and all, is a man in the ring, he's a tough, mean guy... and his vastness makes him a tough assignment for anyone ever

 

Bowe should not be licensed. He will get licensed, but.....he shouldn't. He's a basket case and he's finished. athetic:

 

loadedgloves can say whatever he wants, IMO

he came up with "kids are the joy of life (no Sandusky!)"

that little bit of fucking brilliance is a free pass to shoot from the hip on any subject for life, LOL

I believe he also coined NFL:The Gathering for fantasy football... good stuff