Roach: Khan won´t fight Maidana, should vacate title...

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  1. Irish

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    Don't get it twisted, my brother. A KO win is only way a fighter should be trying to win. I never said otherwise. That alone however doesn't make it impressive.

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  3. Irish

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/jan/18/amir-khan-america-bigots-hate

    So, Amir Khan is leaving Frank Warren and going to America to join Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, *possibly making his American debut against the flash New Yorker Paulie Malignaggi at Madison Square Garden in April. Well blow me down with one of pit-a-pat Paulie's feather-juiced jabs – and take a bow, the boo-boys.

    The move, confirmed yesterday, has much to do with the fact GBP's Richard Schaefer and Top Rank boss Bob Arum have been hanging around Hollywood like a pair of thumb-sucking talent scouts the past year, getting in the ear of Khan and his boxing guru, Freddie Roach, at the trainer's Wild Card gym.
    Khan has gone with Schaefer because the smart guys at Golden Boy and their rich friends at HBO also promote David Haye in America, and have worked with Ricky Hatton. Both of the Brits are good friends of the world light-welterweight champion. One of them might yet fight him – and how neat a deal would that be for Golden Boy and HBO: Khan v Hatton in Las Vegas, with both fighters part of the promotion.

    There is no escaping the fact, though, that Schaefer's job has been made easy by the small crew of British bigots who have taken against Khan, for no apparent reason other than their lack of anything resembling a brain – and I mean that collectively, because they might just be able to build one between them.

    Khan has been telling us for a long time he has grown disenchanted with these people. It is why he has fallen in love with America. Over there, living quietly and comfortably in the Californian sunshine, he is accepted without question by the fans – black and white Americans, Filipinos, Mexicans, all of them. And, whatever anyone, including his father and Warren, say to the contrary, the racists here who cat-call him from the cheap seats and spill out their bile anonymously across the internet have a lot to answer for.

    If these comedians hadn't waged such a disgusting campaign against a fine young man of considerable boxing skill, a shy boy who was a national hero at 17 when he came home from the Olympics with a silver medal and almost single-handedly revived amateur boxing in this country, he might have stayed. He at least might not have been so easily tempted to leave.

    People who have never met him said he was full of himself, that he'd forgotten his roots. They were the ones who cheered when he was knocked on his backside by Breidis Prescott, which pretty much sums up their mindset. Those of us lucky enough to spend time with him know all this to be a nonsense. Amir Khan is probably the nicest sportsman in Britain. Except now he is leaving.
    Warren will say – and, indeed, has said – that the anti-Muslim thing was blown up out of all proportion. Maybe. But Frank wasn't on the end of it.

    When Khan spoke to us before the Dmitriy Salita fight about his frustrations with the punters who attacked his faith and colour, he probably did go one quote too far. For him to say he would have been a world superstar if he were white only gave ammunition to the baiters, who claimed he was arrogant. But it was a shot from the heart. There was no spin on it. Khan is that kind of man, honest and straight.

    Now he really is going into the lion's den. It is a long time since a British fighter invaded America by actually going to live and fight there. Terry Downes did it. To a lesser extent, Nigel Benn and Lennox Lewis did it. Audley Harrison tried it, and bombed out. Naseem Hamed said he was going to do it, and didn't. A long time ago, the likes of Ted "Kid" Lewis and Jack "Kid" Berg did it. Now a young Anglo-Asian kid from Bolton is doing it. Wish him luck.

    He will miss Warren's guidance, but he has Roach to talk to. The trainer is a pretty wise owl and he will look after Khan's chin as much as his ring career better than anyone over there I can think of.
    All of this looks tough on Frank. Save your tears. He's made plenty with Khan. Besides, maybe one day Warren will get Khan back over here to fight Kell Brook. Now what a homecoming that would be.


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    And, if you believe any of that utter shite from that Cunt Mitchell, I will tell you another one myself......


    Khan is despised because he has made a fortune from doing...very little. Nigel Benn was as black as the Ace of Spades and had a MASSIVE white following. Hamed was as Muslim as a flea on the arse of Mohammeds camel....and had a huge British following. Of course, he eventually reverted to form with the instructions he gave to Buffer and the "ISLAM" thing on the back of his shorts...but they loved him up until that.


    Mitchell is just a CUNT. Khan has made NO ATTEMPT, thats ZERO EFFORT to consolidate his position amongst the best 140lbrs in Britain. He has been floored by midgets like Limond and Gomez, and flat sparked the fuck out by Prescott. He has feasted off smaller, weaker opponents, made money and got a title shot and a tomato can for his first defense.


    Question: If Khan is leaving America to escape bigots....why not take Warren with him, like Hamed did???



    It's PC Guardian horseshit.
     
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    The truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle.

    Amir did plenty of things which caused his complete lack of popularity in the UK, many of which are listed by Irish above, but that doesn't detract from the fact that at least some of the criticism which has come his way has no real basis outside of Khan's ethnicity.

    Sorry Irish- whilst I agree that boxing fans detract from Khan because of his career path, most outside the game have no concept of the traditional, lineal process by which British fighters are supposed to progress.

    There has been some racism. Not as much as Amir thinks, sure, but there has been some. As a successful, high profile British Muslim, Khan has been too easy a target for some bigots to resist.

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  5. Irish

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    So why didnt Hamed get it in the ass from the British fans?

    And how do you explain Sajid Mahmood being booed by, get this, British- Pakistanis when he makes an appearance at the Oval or at Old Trafford?

    Mitchell tries to paint a picture of some overbearing, stifling atmosphere of bigotry.

    Then he says, later on, that its a small gang shouting abuse from the cheap seats.

    Its one or the other.

    Did the promoters of ANY of Khans fights get a request to review video evidence and CCTV and make arrests for racist abuse? If it was so overbearing and stifling, it must have been audible and the culprits identifiable.

    Khan has been insulated in a bubble of very expensive, very extensive goodwill from TV companies, media outlets etc.

    He dumped Warren in a move that stank of pure greed. I dont feel sorry for Warren, but Khan thinks he is Billy BigBollocks when in truth Warren rehabilitated his Waterford Crystal ass and made him a fortune.
     
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    I was at the Khan-Salita fight, in the cheap seats, with my brother. here were quite a few who were clearly there to see Khan knocked out and we heard at least three seperate calls of "Kill the parki Bastard!"as Salita walked past to the ring.

    Sorry bro, but I can tell you first hand that there were and are elements of Khan's detractors who are simply racist. Those tickets weren't that cheap- £50 a pop for the worst seats, and yet clearly some people had forked out simply to see if he might get iced again.

    Now, that is not to say that "there is an overbearing, stifiling atmosphere of racism", as you eloquently describe it. Of course there is nothing of the sort. The vast majority of those who take umbrage with Amir do so for boxing reason, and there are a fair few here, me included, who have done so on a number of ocassions. Amir is a professional sportsman and, as a result, fair game for criticism IMHO.

    As I said, the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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  7. Irish

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    That's 3 out of.......15,000, which comes out at around .000002%. Now let us assume that there were another 297 dotted around the venue..that's still a tiny percentage.

    I fail then to see what Khan's beef is, or Mitchells for that matter. Khan saw a cut of the money paid by the bigots. Floyd Mayweather used to always say..."Pay to see me win, pay to see me lose.....but pay" Dont tell me that people didnt tune in to Wlad vs Peters with the hope of seeing Wlads career get ended. That kind of thing happens all the time but only for poor impecunious Amir does the press bother picking up on it.

    And on that happy note, it becomes obvious that NO boo-boys "forced" Khan out. He left because, like most of his kind, he resides under his fathers thumb, and his father, who knows as much about boxing as I do about nuclear physics, has it all figured out. He thinks Amir is the next Manny Pac. He actually believes this. It is ignorance of their own making that sees Babur Khan and son depart for America.

    Yes...a lot closer to my version of events than that of a man who is paid to read and write for a major National broadsheet.
     
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    In fairness, Khan has had a lot of positive media offshoots, does a lot of charity stuff...the problem is likely his style and lack of charisma...he doesnt really have a blood and guts style of a Benn or Hatton, nor the charisma of a Hamed or, to a lesser extent, Eubank....nor did he ever develop the regional groundswell support of a Hatton or, to a lesser extent, Farnell-plus all the post-olympic hype generated the same kind of begrudgery that we saw with Audley and Degale, boxing fans don't like being force-fed "superstars". He's more like a herol graham, good athlete lacking personality.
     
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    Hamed's arrogance/cockiness brought the punters in. I'd guess that a decent percentage wanted to see, firstly, a great fight, and secondly, Hamed KOd if poss. Not for any particular rascist reason, just to shut the gobby fucker up.*




    * I was a big Hamed fan, btw.
     
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    I think more was made out of the racist element than was needed, but there is no doubt that he has recieved some stick because of it, you would be a fool to say otherwise.
     
  11. Irish

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    Thats just it. This guy is being rammed down our throats. And you know what...I wouldn't mind, if it weren't for the fact that he just got scraped off the canvas.


    This race angle is fake and manufactured. Khan is leaving for America to pursue his God........$$$

    If it was merely Race, why is Warren left at home???
     
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    He is leaving for America to make extra money. He was not forced out by BOO-BOYS.
     
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    If my theory that Khan is extremely popular in the UK ever needed proof, here it is--people are paying £50 to see a guy they don't even like.
    Game, Set, Match.
     
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    :lol: for once I will agree.

    The notion that boo-boys would part with £50 to see him knocked out is daft. They could just wait until after the fight and watch it online or in the boozer, for the price of a scoop or two. Or three. Or four.
     

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