Round by Round: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Calzaghe

I co-sign with what you just typed and he's not a big puncher either. I'll Holla 5000

 

Joe won clearly.
CLEARLY.
And STILL lost the fight on a card.
Not exactly a convincing example to make the point you were trying to make.

 

I'd give Hops every round

 

Dont matter what 1 card says. It's what the end results indicate. Did he or did he not win the fight. THe answer is yes. So I don't want to hear shit about cats not being able to get decisions over here in the states. I'll Holla 5000

 

cripes, BigDawg. First you say that a split decision win in a clear fight shows how great the usa treats foreigners and now you're picking Roy by KO over Joe.

At least you're being consistent, I guess.

Roy ko'd glen kelly and clinton woods in 2002.
Since then he's had 8 fights.
He's scored zero ko's. He's scored zero knockdowns (i think). He's come close to stopping zero fighters during that time.
Among the opponents were Ajamu, Hanshaw, and Tito.

Meanwhile, Calzaghe has never been stopped and is fighting as well as he ever has.

I think I'd lean oh so slightly to predicting that Roy will not KO Joe.

 

Calzhage is no spring chicken, either.

 

dunno how much credit i can give Calzaghe for this fight :dunno:


Hopkins schooled him from the outside, and alot on the inside.......only thing that won him the fight is the amount of slaps he threw :doh:

 

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Roy isn't to likely to stop (or beat Calzaghe), but he dropped Trinidad twice and dropped Hanshaw as well. :dunno:

 

Who beats Hopkins easily? Calzaghe beat him about as badly as possible considering Hopkins tactics as a fighter.

 

My bad, I was spending my time tryingto think about remembering Hanshaw and Ajamu fights, I forgot all about Tito. Max syndrome, I guess.

 

Hopkins is old

 

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Because of the way he fights he's still a pain in the ass to fight. Oh and BTW, Calzaghe is no spring chicken.

 

I thought Hopkins was tiring before he found time to rest.

Not sure how the fight woulda played out otherwise, but I thought Hopkins looked better after the rest from the low blow.

I had Calzaghe winning clearly, but it might've been moreso without it.

Hopkins is certainly a smart fighter.

 

I predicted a Calzaghe victory by close decision..and that's exactly what we got...but I honestly thought Bernard won this fight. I had it 6-6 with the KD being the difference.

I think the judges and fans (and lederman) gave Calzaghe the rounds when he hurt Bernard with low blows...but Hopkins actually won both of those rounds. Also Bernard won the first 3 rounds as well as 10 and 11 (one of which was one of the low blow rounds)

114-113 for Hopkins...but I'm ok with the decision

 

I had Calzaghe winning 116-112 and I would have been shocked if they gave Bernard that fight.

Hopkins should hae won it, honestly. When he stepped up the pressure and made a fight out of it, it looked like his punches had far more impact than Joe's. But for whatever reason, Hopkins just cannot fight 3:00 minutes of any round anymore.

Hopkins has no one to blame but himself. After the Taylor decisions, you'd think he wouldn't lose fights like that anymore but he insists on doing it his way-- or he just can't put his foot on the gas anymore.

Either way, it is time to hang them up IMO.

Calzaghe won the fight clearly, albeit in a very ugly fashion.

 

which other boxer has achieved so much with as sloppy technique as calzaghe? but still, there's an unorthodox effectiveness to it.

cultural difference between uk & us - swearing. enzo calzaghe and hatton's trainer billy graham are both notable in their colourful language, contrast to the americans in the opposite corner.

adogg - even as somebody who grew up near wales, i couldnt understand what enzo was saying either. he's got an italian lilt to it, and he speaks like his son boxes - fast and sloppy.

 

what's with Hopkins bitching and acting all de la hoya-esque every time calzaghe touched him near his private parts? Was it his swollen prostate?? :dunno: that looked like frustration more than anything

 

Hopkins always does that.

He commits nearly every foul in the book but makes a big thing out of it when he gets fouled, trying to garner a point deduction from the ref.

Or in the case what happened tonight, I think trying to get some rest.

 

= hopkins looking for time to rest = hopkins is old = calzaghe could only get a SD over a very shot hopkins

 

Round 11 was a clear Calzaghe round.
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Compubox had it 20/57 for Calz vs 11/51 for Hopkins, Hopkins landed zero of signficance, Calz landed some really hard stuff, looking around I can't find anyone else who scored it for Hopkins even a card that had Hopkins winning on *********.

 

Clear but close win for Joe, he outworked the old man.

Calzaghe should stop messing with grandpa Hopkins and Roy, there's little point at fighting them at this point, he should've done this much earlier.

 

:bears: very well put

 

There was plenty of a point to fighting Hopkins. A lot of people considered Hopkins to be the man at 175, well now Calzaghe beat him. I agree there is no point in a Jones fight though.

 

Yep, something that has been very quickly forgotten here.

 

Something else that has been forgotten.

 

I'm a Hopkins fan and he WAS the man at 175. That man is now Calzaghe. I just hope we get more fights out of the two...just not with each other:doh:

 

Holy shit, how could you possibly POSSIBLY think Nard won the fight. This was such an easy fight to score.

1 or 2 right hands, a few headbutts, and lots of grabbing does not wi you a round.

Nard got hit more than he ever has in a fight, and he only landed half qas many punches in return, he was also retreating to the ropes for the majority of the fight, whilst Calzaghe was the aggressor, controlling the pace, throwing more and landing more.

So how exactly did hopkins win the fight when he was outlanded, and was being forced back?

Hopkins won the first 3 rounds and that's it.

 

I dont think Hopkins was "the man" at 175, I think he was just the 'linear' champ, now Calzaghe is the linear champ. I think being "the man" requires more longevity at the weight, Calzaghe was definitely "the man" at 168 because he eliminated several other top threats namely Lacy and Kessler, and to my knowledge he held every major belt.

 

Hops just did not have the energy to be able to throw more than that right and hope to connect. Freddie was right when he said if he threw combos he could do it but he cant really throw combos, not with th BUZZSAW that Joe C was.

Hopefully SOMEONE will STRETCH Joe C so we'll still get to see him KO'd before he goes!

 

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