Round-by-Round Hatton-Lazcano, Malignaggi-Ndou

Then why would have Diego beaten him head up?:notallthere:

 

his defence was awful last night, and you'd think after the Mayweather fight, that would be something they would have worked on....but no, he kept recklessly jumping in, wide open. Also, when Lazcano opened up, Ricky just stood there and let him tee off.

I've always felt that Ricky's defence has kind of been underrated. He's always got hit, because he's so aggressive. But he used to be quite clever with it, plenty of head movement, catching punches on the gloves, and he was also a good judge of range. Recently, he's abandoned that, and has just gone diving in, trying to get his shots off asap, and relying on holding as a form of defence.

Ricky is still world class, and i'll have him as a favourite against the even less impressive Mallinaggi, but he's not the beast he was 3 years ago.

 

I wouldn't say so. Corrales has had the better career.

 

:nono:

Hatton did better against Mayweather, a hell of a lot better against Castillo, and he's still alive.

 

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Hatton would have KILLED that wifebeating, DUI, gangbanging piece of human filth if he hadn't already offed himself by driving his moped while intoxicated.

 

"Floyd would! Floyd would! Floyd would! Floyd would!",... this fight DEGRADES Fraud's legacy :shit:, and what's he got to do with 140lber's anyway apart from fighting them in higher divisions, a Hopkins tactic to a tee,.... his gigantic rangey arse can't make 140 anymore,..why dont we see him verses Margarito or Cotto?..... or somebody relevant in the welterweight division where he belongs perhaps? where 'FLOYD WOULD' defend every single charge with his elbows, and twist his back during every moment of panic, ...Floyd would, Floyd would, Floyd, Floyd, Floyd,..:shit:

 

He fought both Mayweather and Castillo at their best weights. Hatton won 1 more round against Mayweather then Corrales did. Great job doing better.

Corrales is going to a HOF inductee, Hatton hasn't done enough to get inducted yet.

 

Ya think? I wouldn't give him a vote, nor would I vote for Hatton at the moment although his win against Tszyu trumps anything Corrales did in his career

 

Technically, his win over Castillo was as important for his division as Hatton's win over Tszyu was. Now, was the Castillo Corrales fought as highly regarded as Tszyu when Hatton fight him? Probably not but he wasn't inactive like Tszyu...

 

I wouldn't say so. Castillo in 05 was better then Tszyu in 05 and Corrales-Castillo is probably the greatest boxing fight in the hitory of the sport. Then add a win over Cassamayor and Freitas in their primes and he has had a better career.

 

Firstly, he went 1-2 with Casamayor and the fight he did win was very close IMO. Secondly, its easy to dismiss Tszyu as old in retrospect but he had just returned from a hiatus and KO'ed arguably the leading contender in the division at that point, Mitchell. If you want to devalue that victory, it is just as easy to devalue Corrales' Freitas victory on the basis of the latter's subsequent career, although I think the Freitas victory is a big one for Corrales.

Was Castillo in 2005 really a better fighter than Tszyu at that point? I don't think so, just because he became half of an all time great fight does not mean we should overrate him in a p4p sense. The same argument applies IMO to Vazquez and Marquez at 122 now; the fights are great but neither might even be the best at that weight let alone transcend it in a p4p ranking.

 

sense.

 

He was 1-2 with Cassamayor. You are right. The first loss was competitive and Corrales ws stopped on cuts in a fight he could have continued.

The second fight Corrales won clearly. The 3rd fight Corrales was a shot fighter after the Castillo fights.

Mitchell needed a gift to beat Lovemore N'Dou :: Right before Tszyu beat him. If i remember correctly his last fight before that was against Ben Tackie in 2003.

Freitas probably has had a better career then has Mitchell.

Castillo in the 11 Months prior to the first Corrales fight had beaten Lazcano, Julio Diaz and Cassamayor. He also had given Mayweather Jr the toughest fight of his whole career 3 years earlier. So in 2005 beating Castillo meant a whole lot more then beating Tszyu. Tszyu hasn't had 1 fight since his Hatton fight.

 

Actually Mitchell had stayed pretty busy during Tszyu's injury on a run through mid level opponents including Ndou and Tackie. Claims that he needed a gift to beat Ndou or that Corrales suddenly became shot against Casamayor could be equally countered by my suggesting that Castillo's decision against Casamayor was equally disputable, that he was long removed from the Mayweather fight, that Tszyu had a more illustrious career overall, that Julio Diaz and Lazcano (who he beat again in a close back and forth war) were never that good anyhow etc etc.

This argument isn't going anywhere, you're the guy who had lazcano kicking hatton's ass through the first half of the fight, you obviously don't have much time for Hatton no matter what is said.

 

cpa, actually like rooster correctly informed us, it was just light hearted British banter, I would talk to my friends like that.

Also, I am extremely lairy in real life, I can be highly aggressive if someone annoys me in the slightest. So lairy in fact, that people leave me alone and I never get into street fights.

You make valid points but quite simply, they are kind of irrelevant to hatton, it makes no sense.

Are you saying that urango and lazcano are better than tszyu?

Tszyu is the best fighter hatton has fought, and hatton looked very good, fast and sharp.

Tszyu is a faster fighter than lazcano, he also has better defense, he is a good range fighter, he moves in and out of range very well.

Hatton tagged tszyu far more easily than he did against the no defense lazcano, and also took less in return.

Tszyu has faster hands and is more accurate than lazcano, and also hits harder.

I'm not even a big hatton fan, I love morales, pavlik, pacman etc.

Shit, I think Calzaghe is a FAR, far better fighter than Hatton.

But the fact is, hatton is borderline shot.

Against worse opponents, he's looked worse recently.

He is slower, his defense is worse, his accuracy and timing have completely gone. Lazcano has average defense, and even when he was standing right in front of hatton, hatton struggled to hit him with a clean hook.

He looked awful, against a fringe contender past his best.

I don't mean to sound like a prick, but either you're a hatton hater, or your observational skills are sorely lacking.

Like I said, tszyu is a better, sharper, more skilled fighter than urango and lazcano, and hatton hit him far more easily, and took less in return, and looked faster, sharper, more powerful, and just all round better.

Hatton is more or less done, almost everything about him has eroded, even the bounce in his step, and his trademark energy and solid bodyshots.

I don't really see why it's so hard for you to believe either, people with hatton's high energy style typically have a short shelf life, and coupled with the fact that between fights hatton guzzles beer and pork pies, it's sort of to be expected really :dunno:

 

IMDAZED - I laughed at you for pickign Bradley before, but after seeing hatton look like absolute shit on saturday, he is far more past it than I thought.

I would say bradley has a great chance, a pick em fight for me.

 

Hatton IS on the decline.

However I honestly think he beats ANYONE at junior welter right now. Bradley, N'Dou, Witter. He shouldn't ever consider fighting at welter again though. :nono: