Round by Round: Joel Casamayor vs. Michael Katsidis

Hatton would get slammed on his head by Katsidis. Katsidis isn't gonna let that cheat bear hug him all night.

 

Great fight, but frustrating as hell to watch if you wanted Katsidis to win... why did he stop going to the body? He had that fight, amazing he lost.

 

dsimon writes:

Ill watch it again but I saw Katsidas throwing punches. The KO looked worse because Katsidas' biggest mistake was not taking the count to get his legs back. But he was throwing leather back... thats what I saw and I usually applaud the ref stepping in.

 

Some people on another site said Kotelnik should have gone for the kill in rounds 7 or 8 against Rees, but he stuck to his gameplan and methodically destroyed Rees. Katsidis should have done the same, kill the body and the headbutt will fall, and not your own. I can´t believe Casamaoyr pulled this out. You know what, maybe they should have Casamayor vs. Gamboa, that would be cool.

 

he didn't take the count because he was out of it. The ref should have stopped it there and then. Kat had no idea where he was. He was stumbling all over the place.

 

dsimon writes:

The Cubans have a great style and Cassamayor's technical ability and skills are indeed impressive. I just thought he lost to Santa Cruz, but he was not shot this fight.

 

the stoppage may have been early but just like the andy lee fight, the inevitable ending was probable.

casamayor is a good finisher and is able to feint and then land his straight left when he's got a guy badly hurt.

 

Hopefully Casamayor defends against Campbell.

 

dsimon writes:

He didn't take the count because he is inexperienced. Thats a rookie mistake. And you and I and nobody else can say if it would have made a difference except that most veteran guys would have tried to get a few more seconds.

 

Yeah, I would have waited for another few seconds if I was the ref, but Katsidis looked done. I didn't like the stoppage at all at the time, but he was fucked up.

 

He has been knocked down before. He was way to hurt to have control over his body.

 

dsimon writes;

Well I can't in good conscience ever blame a ref for looking out for a fighter but I feel like Max does.

With all due resepect your sense of inevitability is nonsense. Pavlik would have been described more done than Katsis based on his experience with Taylor and that was not an inevitable conclusion was it? Don't overplay your hand Neil. Yes the ref was acting altruistically and professionally but it is folly to disregard some pretty relevant considerations:

1) Katsis did not take the count which made the KO more pronounced than it might have been

2) Katsis was throwing punches back when the fight was stopped

3) The fight had been see sawing.

 

dsimon writes:

How would you or anyone know that? More nonsense. You want to say the ref made a judgement you agree with fine you just shut me up, but you come with all this out of space shit like you know what Katsis was experiencing. What I look at is that the guy was throwing punches back.

For example, if the ref felt like Mex did and said to himself, "this guy looks done"... fine. But even the ref would not pretend to be able to know Katsis had not regained body control. Coming back from getting belted is a part of the game.

 

sure thing boss.

katsidis would get stopped. for sure.

 

I wouldve preferred he let it go on for the more conclusive ending. its not my health at risk tho so I can't complain. I just gave my opinion on the result and what it wouldve been had it continued. a helpless, battered aussie

 

Katsidis lost because Teddy Atlas picked him to win.

 

Double L did too ::

 

Hatton wouldn't stop Katsidis. He isn't a puncher and doesn't let his hands go anyway. Hatton would be holding for his life against a fighter as tough as Katsidis.

 

hatton is bigger,stronger, faster and more experienced.

katsidis has beaten who exactly to suggest he could deal with those obstacles?

 

Absolutely agreed. Man did I swear alot watching this fight! WTF was Kat thinking coming out like bull at a gate like that? Exactly the same way he got done twice in the first round.

Great body work for most of the fight and that was what did the damage. Casa took the head shots fine for the most part but that left to the body folded Casa in half.

Dsimon, please. That was not a quick stoppage. To be honest, he should have been stopped immediately after the knockdown. He was basically unresponsive.

Casa got away with alot of headwork this fight. Kat did go low a fair bit too though so I guess it evens out. Kat was humble in defeat. I hope he takes this as a learning experience and tries not to repeat his mistakes (like Darchiniyan will. He'll be back to throwing one punch at a time and ignoring his corner soon.).

Decent showing by Billy Dibb but he's back to clowning during his fights. I hope he reins that in or he'll get done against a top fighter.

 

agREED...

Katsidis Acquitted Himself VERY WELL, but the FACT is, he Got KO'ed by a GERIATRIC Former 130 lb'der...

Peeps R Allowing Kat's Fan-Friendly Style to INFLUENCE their Opinions on him as a Fighter...


REED

 

Missed the fight. Gotta watch the replay. I'm kinda disappointed by boy Katsidis lost, but as long as it was a great fight, good! Props to Casa though. I thought he was too long in the tooth to handle Kat, but he proved me wrong.

BTW - I'm HARDLY a fan of Vicky Hatton, but yall are crazy if you pick Kat over him. Hatton stops Katsidis, though I'd be rooting hard as hell for Kat.

Guess this answers the question whether Babyfat Diaz could beat Casa.

 

I disagree. Kat has a ton of heart and will fight to the death but Hatton is a much more skilled fighter. Hate all you want, you know that's true.

That's coming from a Katsidis fan.

 

Yeah,I noticed that about Teddy Kellerman lately!!::

 

Exactly my response. It's not necessarily Hatton's height (he's about the same as Katsidis, if not shorter), or strength (Katsidis isn't exactly weak and he could put on muscle to move up), but his skill level.

They're different classes of fighter.

Would love to see these guys dig in and go to the body against each other, though. Guaranteed excitement.

 

hate is all that guy does when it comes to hatton. makes me suspect his mother is on the hitmans hitlist

 

Neil do you think Kat could beat the Baby slapping bull?

 

Because Casamayor was getting back into a rhythm and had won the last two rounds....Katsidis came out swinging to hurt him again and that's EXACTLY when he got caught with a left he never saw coming.

Peace.

 

Great fight...Casa is just too veteran and crafty for Katsidis, who actually did better than I expected.

I had Casa up by 1 pt. at the stoppage (84-83; 5-4 in rounds).

We really can't complain these last 2 years, can we?

Peace.

 

I'd certainly pick diaz. to outbox him.