Shane Mosley "I am fighting Pac"

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  1. Anthony

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    Especially when this guy is suppose to be the best ever.
     
    Anthony, Dec 1, 2010
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    Pac is in a no lose situation if he fights Mayweather. If Floyd blazes him in a round or two it doesn't lessen his legacy. I doubt anyone holds Hearns in higher esteem than Duran.

    Pac beating him can only enhance his legacy.
     
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    At least Hearns wasn't AWOL when the big fights were being made in the 80's. He wasn't bringing up barriers to fight Duran at the weight most appropriate to him.
     
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    Duran had no advantage at all against Hearns and the size difference was way more. In this fight Pacquiao will be the one that hits harder, faster, younger, higher workrate and coming out of retirement.

    Floyd is more skilled, smarter and stronger. Fights better on the inside than Pacquiao as well and adjustes better but this is a close fight than can go either way.
     
    V10, Dec 1, 2010
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    I have said that Floyd needs to beat Manny for his legacy more than Manny has to beat Floyd. Manny can lose to PBF and still be ranked higher all time.

    I just don't like the extreme views of dumping on everything PBF does while praising Manny. Their resumes contain common opponents that Floyd fought better versions of.
     
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    How is 147 Hatton better than 140 hatton?

    How is Margarito...oh
    How is Clotty...oh
    How is cotto...oh.

    How is 147 Marquez better than 130 marquez?
     
    Anthony, Dec 1, 2010
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    What you call extreme views, I call REALITY. That last sentence is horse hockey.
     
    Fighter, Dec 1, 2010
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  8. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    you know Hatton was undefeated..even though he was fighting at Welter were he look like total shit vs. Collazo..and was lucky to leave the arena that night..still UNDEFEATED...:rolleyes:
     
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    Yup. After that Collazo beatings, Hatton was running back to 140. The only thing that brought him back was the money.
     
    Anthony, Dec 1, 2010
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    Lamest argument ever.
     
    V10, Dec 1, 2010
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    You said pointless. Fighting the champion of a division is never pointless, you know this.
     
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    Why? Because it's the truth??
     
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    I disagree. Fighting Judah was pointless for Mayweather.
     
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    I agree. He should have fought Baldomir right away. What does this have to do with my post?
     
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    You said fighting the champ of a division. Judah was a champ. I was disagreeing with your debate with MWS. I disagreeing with the post in general. It can be pointless fighting the champ sometimes.
     
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    You and I obviously have a different definition of champion. Baldomir was the welterweight champion when Mayweather fought Judah.
     
    steve_dave, Dec 1, 2010
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    Who would you rather Floyd fight. Clotty, Cotto, margarito or Baldomir?
     
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    At the time, probably Cotto. I wanted to see Floyd/Margarito too. Back in 2006, Clottey wasn't really in the picture.

    But I'll never fault anyone for taking on and beating the champ. In a perfect world, I would have been happy to see all those fights.
     
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    So you wouldnt fault a guy for taking on the champ, knowing full well the champ is the easiest fight out there instead of actually challenging yourself? Clottey was in the picture. He fought margarito that year for the Title.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Look at the time Mayweather fighting the chump Bumdomir...no problem. WHY NOT!!! But then fighting Judah? That's questionable..but OKAY..go for it..could he had fit Margarito/Clottey/Williams/Cotto in before the De La Hoya fight...? YES...and since he would have defeated them easily anyway(the opinion of Mayweather groupies)..he couldn't lose to those guys...then after De La Hoya..he fought Ricky Hatton at 147 where he looked like SHIT....OKAy..OKAY..no PROBLEM....

    but after that he should have fought one or two of the guys mention....but NO!!! He decided to RETIRE...:shit:..hide for a minutes...once the coast was clear(Cotto defeated/destroyed, Williams gone, Who the hell is Margarito excuse he can't sell PPV, lil' filipino moved up and pounded DLH easy fight or so he though) till Pac started destroying the guys he feared sooo much.. etc. THEN HE WANTED steroids testing out of left field...:scratcher:
     
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    There wasn't much for Mayweather.Clottey demand at the time though. But you're right, for some reason I thought Clottey/Margarito was the year after.

    Honestly, what I wanted to see, was him win the title first, and defend it as many times as possible against the top guys. Instead, he took the De La Hoya and Hatton money.

    the Title :lol: Please.
     
    steve_dave, Dec 2, 2010
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    Same thing at 140 when he avoided Cotto and Hatton and went right to Gatti for the title. Yeah this mayweather is Great.
     
    Anthony, Dec 2, 2010
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    Cotto and Top Rank wanted nothing to do with Floyd at 140 and so did Hatton. In fact Hatton wanted the fight at 147 so he could keep his 140lb title.

    Whos better
    De la Hoya May 2007 at 154
    De la Hoya December 2008 at 147

    Mosley May 2010 147
    Mosley May 2011 142
    :Rubio:
     
    royyjonesjrp4pno1, Dec 2, 2010
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    You keep brining up Clottey like hes Ray Leonard. Hes lost every big fight fight.
     
    royyjonesjrp4pno1, Dec 2, 2010
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    Whose better...fighting Margarito, Cotto, Clottey back to back to back...or NEVER fighting Margarito, Cotto or Clottey......ever
     
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    I just said stuff. Like when Pactards shit on Floyd for fighting a guy 2 weight classes lower i simply bring up Oscar Larios. At least Floyd did it against a top 3 p4p fighter, not somebody coming off a tko loss.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Clottey and Cintron were/are two decent fighters that Floyd Mayweather could have fought...you know as a TUNE-UP to Cotto, Margarito, Williams...since MAYWEATHER COULD HAVE defeated all of them...easily...
     
    ILLUMINATI, Dec 2, 2010
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    Clottey is average.
    Margarito is a plaster using fraud, who is average.
    Cotto was great at 1 point and I wanted to see the fight as much as anybody else in 2008.
     
    royyjonesjrp4pno1, Dec 2, 2010
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    Floyd did no such thing. Cotto and Hatton were both clear that they felt they weren't ready for Mayweather at 140. You really need to brush up on some of this stuff man.
     
    steve_dave, Dec 2, 2010
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