Shane Mosley vs. Ricardo Mayorga @ WW both prime

Make no mistake bruh, Whitaker would school Shane.

One of Shane's biggest weaknesses was that for an elite fighter, his ring IQ wasn't extremely high. His success was more based on his natural talent than his brains. And his natural talent was considerable, which got him so far. Cause GOD KNOWS that his father was the worst trainer ever.

So, despite the fact that he had faster hands than Whitaker, because Whitaker's mind operated sooooooooooooooo much quicker than Shane's, it would negate the speed. Whitaker's defense reacted quicker than Mosley's offense.

It'd be a 9-3 type boxing clinic. At BEST, Shane wins 4.

 

whitaker would have problems with mosley at 135lbs. mosley had taken no beatings to that point and was a bigger, stronger fighter. it would have been very competitive. whitaker beat no one at 135 as good as mosley. and, of course, vice versa was true.

 

It would have been a close and tedious fight and Mosley would get the decision because of his faster hands.

 

I think Whitaker's defense and counter punching get it done against Mosley. It's a styles thing. Shane pursues, Whitaker slips and counters, just how he likes it.

 

Nah, Lightweight Shane was MUCH Better (Not to Mention Bigger, Stronger, Faster) than the Greg Haugen's, Jose Luis Ramirez's, Freddie Pendleton's and Jorge Paez's of the World, Bro...THOSE Guys Got "Schooled" by Pernell...

No Way in Hell Does Lightweight Shane Get "Schooled" By Pernell Whittaker...BEATEN, Probably, but Not "Schooled"...





REED:nono:

 

THIS...

Lightweight Shane Would be THE Most Naturally Talented Fighter Whittaker OR Duran Fought @ that Weight...& Shane ISN'T an Easy Out for Either Of Them...





REED:hammert:

 

Perhaps not an easy out, but I don't think as competitive as you or Neil suggest. Duran and Whitaker would have beaten Shane at lightweight with NO DOUBT left on scorecards. Does Shane have his moments? Yes. Is he ever really in command in either matchup? No.

Mosley-Chavez is a more competitive fight, and a case can be made for a Mosley upset. But, I'd end up going with Chavez. The Chavez that beat Rosario was a pretty motherfucking AWESOME fighter. Granted, Mosley did very well against come-forward Mexicans, but Chavez wasn't like them...

For what it's worth, Mosley beats Floyd at 135.

 

Mosley vs the Mayweather who beat N'Dou is a hard one to call for me, though I lean towards Mosley.

I think Chavez beats Mosley as well.

 

Mayweather always beats Mosley. He might have a tougher time at lightweight but he still wins.

 

I think prime Mosley's handspeed is a HUGE problem for Floyd. 2010 Mosley was totally incapable of throwing more than one punch at a time. At lightweight, when Shane catches Floyd with that right hand he has the reflexes and handspeed to rapidly follow up and do real damage to Floyd. If an ancient Mosley could catch Floyd once, and buzz him with the only flush shot he landed, there's no reason NOT to believe prime Mosley couldn't do real damage to him.

Don't get me wrong, was Floyd brilliant against Ndou? Yes. But Mosley is not Ndou. Conversely, Floyd is unlike anybody Shane fought at 135, but I think the styles favor Mosley.

 

Mosley's gameplan against Floyd was to jab to the body and follow up with a right hand over the top. Obviously it worked in that second round but once Floyd saw what he was doing he adjusted and Shane had no answer. Shane could have more prolonged success at lightweight but I'd expect Floyd to again take whatever works from Mosley and then it's up to Shane to adjust back, which we all know he won't. Once Mosley starts taking shots without being able to land leather of his own he'll just do what he always does and lose round after round.

 

I think the Floyd/Mosley match tells us absolutely nothing about a fight between a prime Mosley and Mayweather

 

Nothing whatsoever.

It's like saying because Lummox beat 02 Tyson that he'd also beat 88 Tyson.

 

I wouldnt have a confident pick for Floyd vs the prime versions of Oscar or Shane

 

The LEAST Impressive Stretch of Floyd's Career was his Stint @ '35, in REED's Opinion...

N'Dou was Floyd's ONLY Above Average Performance There, the Rest Being Castillo (2x) and Sosa...REED Would Actually FAVOR Lightweight Shane Over the Version of Floyd we Saw, @ that Weight...ANY Version of Floyd Takes ANY Version of Shane @ '40 and '47 Though...





REED:mj:

 

I don't understand why the n'dou fight is continuously brought up. N'dou never did shit. Why does everyone bring up that figh? All it showed was that with a sufficiently scrubby and undersized opponent, pbf could will his way to not fighting like a total puss. Wow!

 

Que???...





REED:dunno:

 

N'Dou was bigger than Floyd.

 

Disagreed on your last statement.

The pre-Forrest version of Mosley beats Floyd at 147.

Floyd has never been an impressive weltweight.

To this day, Floyd's most impressive welterweight performance came against a junior welterweight in Hatton. It was an impressive performance, but then again, you put Hatton in with a prime Mosley and Ricky is unconscious in 6 rounds tops.

Floyd is historically greater than Shane, and is better than Shane. But I firmly believe that prime Mosley had the ideal style and qualities to beat Floyd..... at any weight.

 

Yep.

 

I'd take a prime Oscar over Floyd at 147 no question. Oscar's height, jab and speed give him the same trouble as in their actual fight but more consistently.

 

Oscar had about 20lb on floyd that night, mind

 

Slugger Shane is not beating the maestro at any weight. Different classes of fighter. One is a fake master boxer that fooled everyone because of his fast hands and cute ring antics and teh other is the genuine article.

How the hell is Shane, the spurt fighting slugger, going to beat Master boxer Mayweather? Not possible.