SHOBOX WEIGH-IN (PHOTOS) CHAMBERS-GUINN

It was 97-93 twice.

 

Right, my bad.

 

Fans always say to me "This is why women should never judge a fight". I take it further. I see the crap novels they write. The pathetic poems they 'craft'. If women were never given a pen, would this problem be fixed? Maybe 50 years ago, but computers changed all that.

No. Women should never be educated. Without education they wouldn't BE @ ringside fucking up scorecards, nor would they be flooding my bookstore with trash, or my major with soppy emo bullshit poetry.

Fuck women.

 

I agree in spirit. I don't hate women. You sound like a guy who hits on 100 women and gets rejected 99 times. Women are just as smart as men in the abstract, but who cares. If I want to talk about sports, I talk to my male friends. I have nothing to talk about with a women. I really want her to moan and let me plow her. Without the sexual element, I wouldn't even speak to a women.


AND GUINN IS TRASH.

 

Sounds are deceptive, especially if there is no line of sight.

You've articulated a response someway off to the left of my original point, but its not far enough removed so that there are no points to be shared.

Women are as smart as men, but thats not the point. If they were not given the same rights to free education as men, it would remove that possibility of equality. I'd go as far to ban women from even stepping foot into a bookstore, so they couldn't subvert the true reasoning behind the ban on education.

 

You should convert to Islam. Yeah, Jaws has told me numerous times I am a caveman. I guess I am making an academic point. I think women are just as smart as us, but really they just need to give up their vaginas. That is all I care about. I guess even when a chick is giving it up, I don't want them to speak very much or loudly. I just want to pound them. I think women should be cloned but all non-sexual parts of their brains should be removed, except the brain stem and ability to move. Their essence is their liquid jelly center. Without that, there is no reason for them to exist.

 

I sense a great Sartre experience in your past.

 

i DON'T understand. I read "no exit" and that's it. I actually liked it but that is the extent of my Sartre reading. I like Existentialism. I generally detest the French and I hate Camus something fierce. He wrote like a spoiled, uneducated teenager. I guess women full fill a predatory urge I have as a man. I like trying to hump them and getting them to willingly do so, but after that, I can't really hold much interest.

 

I never cared much for Camus either and to be honest, I like a few of the concepts of Existentialism too. You short changed yourself by only reading 'No Exit" though. I've always thought of that as a low point in his career.

Nausea is a great read.

 

People who read No Exit and The Stranger and think they know something about Existentialism are idiots. The best place to start is Kierkegaard, or perhaps even Crime and Punishment.

 

Keirkegaard had his idea's developed further though. I understand your point about starting at the beginning (im guessing thats what it is anywho), but Sartre's evolution of the idea suits my line of thinking a whole lot more.

Did you like Nausea? Honest question.

 

I read them. Kierkegaard was a piss poor existentialist. I never understood how he justified his Christianity. I thought he was very weak. I hope you weren't directing your comment at me. All I said is I only read the one story from Satre. I didn't say that was the extent of my reading. Of course, you couldn't hit logic if it were the broadside of a barn.

 

I see the Knights of The Round Cunt Table have all gathered in one place tonight. Now we just need Alabama Man to throw in his 67 1/2 cents. :bears:

 

Glad that the King of the cunts came to comment. BTW, you need to work on your insults towardsme. Your calling me a cunt, was half filled with respect, even admiration. I want you dead. You shouldn't enjoy me at all.

 

You don't want me dead. Who would you pay your tithes to if I wasn't around anymore? :dunno:

 

You don't like me anymore, Noble?

 

No. I never finished it. One day I sat down and read 60 pages, but then I couldn't find it for a month.

 

Of course I do. :nono:

 

you guys have "mommy" issues.

 

I thought Guinn had a real shot here, but he didn't move his hands enough again.
He is a nice guy and was a real good heavyweight at one point, and I'd hate to see him end up as a trialhorse, but that is the direction he is heading in.

 

Heading in? He's already there.

 

No, a trialhorse like "Bigfoot" Martin or something. Guinn did beat Audley Harrison and Zuri Lawrence. True trialhorses don't win even those types of fights.

 

Exactly. Guinn isn't going downward, he's just being exposed as he continues to fight more quality opponents.

Certain commentators took a couple performances against rather weak opposition - at the time, and even moreso now - and started making predictions/proclamations about how good he was/could be based on very little evidence.

He's never been a great fighter. All it took were wins over Michael Grant and Duncan Dokiwari to sell some people on him as the next heir.

Manny Steward on HBO was really what started the over-rating. Steward was much newer in his commentary role, so people took his words/opinions on fighters more seriously then than they do now (as he's revealed himself as something of a shill).

Those two fights simply weren't a good enough or deep enough sample size to really evaluate how good of a fighter he was/is/could be.

Now that we've all seen him in against fighters from all over the spectrum - Toney, Liakhovich, Thompson, Barrett, Chambers, Harrison, Lawrence, Ahunanya, et al - it's been just revealed the level of fighter he really is.

 

I agree..
Guinn is tough and can take a punch, and that isn't good healthwise down the long road for a heavyweight that can absorb punishment.
He also spars almost daily as well at Savannah Gym and that combined with several hundred amateur fights I beleive has taken its toll on the guy, and I'd like to see him bow out of the racket and move on with his life, but he will probably stick around for years like they all do.

 

I never understood all the hate Guinn gets. Most of it comes from people who can't notice anything less obvious than the fact that Guinn isn't a top-10 fighter.

 

I don't hate him Guinn, I think he's a good trial horse for the division and he's certainly willing to play the part. But that's all he is...yet he's the subject of more threads than a number of heavyweights who are significantly better and much more accomplished.

He is a limited fighter who is a victim of the hype he recieved on HBO - and subsequent talking heads who piggy-backed the network - and the internet.