Should Shane try to KO or outbox Cotto?

Here are the reasons this statement is ridiculous:

1.) Cotto isn't advantageously bigger than Shane the way Winky was.
2.) Cotto doesn't employ an arm defense to that will block 90% of incoming offense the way Winky does.
3.) The jab isn't one of Cotto's best weapons the way Winky's is.
4.) Cotto isn't a defensive boxer the way Winky is.

So could you please tell me what you meant by that? Why don't you instead compare Cotto to somebody who fights Cotto's style and who beat Mosley. Oh yeah, that never happened, and it never will.

Here's Cotto's style, he enforces his will on you and that works great as long as you and your opponent are dishing out near the same amount of damage, but since Shane's going to be dishing out more thanks to more speed, better defense, and better legs, Cotto won't be able to fairly see who has the stronger will. Even if he did there's no guarantee Cotto would be right.

Cotto gets KO'd.

 

Sorry Lib four Lib, but here's 2 reasons why Floyd is superior,...

Did Shane start his career way down at 130, and has since fought as high as 154 for atleast 1 fight?

Does Shane have any opponents of the calibre of an Oscar De La Hoya on his resume?

Hasn't Shane................:eeeek: lost a fight before!!!!???

 

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first thing you gotta do is stop pretending the Shane from 2000 will climb in the ring against Cotto.

I don't doubt Shane is faster than Cotto and has more experience than him. But his stamina could be an issue depending on the pace he choses to fight at.

I also agree he doesn't have to be like Floyd to outbox Cotto. I can easly see Shane winning the fight half way through. I just don't know if he will have enough for 12 rounds. I know Cotto will and will get stronger as the fight goes on.

Which is why I wonder if maybe Shane should just go for broke early instead of planning for a 12 round win.

 

this is the same bullshit phonetap was reading about trinidad leading up to the hopkins fight. it's easy to appear to get stronger in fights when you are always the stronger guy...cotto (for the first time) will be in the ring with a guy who already physically bigger and stronger than he is. we'll see if this supposedly "get stronger as the fight goes on" theory of yours will apply here....phonetap doubts it.

 

The discussion ends here...

 

Shane is not physically stronger than Cotto. Shane has fought at 147 and 154 which gives him experience as far as the weight goes. But he also started at lightweight. He is not naturally bigger or stronger than Cotto.

when I said Cotto will get stronger is because he is younger and is in his prime. Shane is past his prime and hasn't looked impressive for years.

I have heard so much shit about how muchs stronger Shane is supossed to be at 147 but it hasn't been the case. Not against Estrada, Cruz, and Collazo which were his last 3 fights at 147. :dunno:

Last time Shane was knocking fools out at 147 were against scrubs like Stone. Cotto ko'd Judah which is better than any KO Shane ever had at 147.

Again I have to go to the archives to find the "old' Shane. Dude is past his prime and it will show in this fight.

 

phonetap's bad...they are the same size.

 

In press conference picks Castillo looked MUCH bigger than Hatton also. In fact fools on thsi site were basing their prediction on the fight on the way they looked in suits standing side by side. :: In the ring it certainly didn't turn out that way.

Are you saying that Castillo is a bigger man than Hatton? If you are you are not smart. If you're not...then you have NO POINT when show that pic.

 

damn...you're slower than usual. not going to waste time with you.

 

please. You have ZERO comeback to that post. You're just buying yourself some time so that you could think of a way of tackling it...:tease:

 

:dunno: He IS bigger than Hatton, easily.

 

Taller doesn't mean bigger.

Was Thomas Hearns a bigger man than Mike Tyson, for example?

 

you've officially gone from slow to moronic in a couple of postings. if you think cotto is bigger than mosley then you are either a moron or as blind as ray charles...simple as that. the question is...are you a moron or blind?

 

:nono: Uh uh uh uh,..Slystaff please, not only was Castillo taller, his frame were wider, and his build were thicker, he was just flat out larger from all pivotal rotations of the spinal slot :nono: and youuuuuuuuuu know it.

 

1. Cotto isn't bigger your right.
2. Cotto does have an arm defence its just not as tight as Winkys.
3. Cotto has an excellent jab when he uses it.
4. Cotto isn't defencive your right. Winkys defence didn't beat Shane his offence did. Cotto is a better offensive fighter then Winky, he has much more power.

 

There was a press release I read today of a conference call from Cotto. Cotto said he is more worried about the Judah fight than he is about the Mosley fight. If so he is SEVERELY underrating Mosley who is bigger, stronger, smarter, faster, more skilled, experienced and likely has more power than Judah.

Cotto also said that age would play a factor in the fight, and that Mosley would feel his power.

I agree w/ most that Mosley should pick apart Cotto with his speed and combinations and let the KO come. That's what he did in the Vargas fights and managed to get a late knockdown against Collazo. Mosley has said prior to the Collazo fight he's treying to be a more relaxed fighter in the ring these days. However he said he plans to engage Cotto and make it a fight. Said he plans to fight smart but will still make it a fight to remember,

I think Mosley has the fight mindset going into the fight.

 

You talk like Cotto is a stright up brawler, always coming forward. The guy is an Olympian, with vast amateur experience, and has beaten every pro in front of him. The guy can alternate speeds.

Cotto has a damn good jab and left hook to the body. Has a BETTER offense than Winky. He is going to fight at a greater PACE than Winky.

Both men will be TESTED. The main thing which should be of concern to the Cotto camp is Mosley overhand right.

 

I hope Shane Lay's his bitch ass out!

I think he should just go nuts and open up!!! I don't think Cotto could take it if he did..

another thing.. Shane never really get's tired... he should unload

I hope Cotto goes out on a stretcher

 

shane gets tired. it's one of the reasons he holds all the time

 

come on Double Bubble... Shane is rarely tired

cotto is a hoe and really is goona get worked!

 

We've seen Cotto seriously hurt twice before. Once against Chop Chop, where he was almost gone. He was hit on the temple and was completely in a daze for a minute. Then Torres had him hurt a couple of times in their fight.

Now it could have been because of the weight, it could have been a weak chin. His recuperative powers are up there.

That's what makes this fight so INTRIGUING. Mosley KNOWS this is the fight to continue well in his career. Mosley's chin has always been solid but he'll give Cotto chances to counter.

 

Granted there's no bitch in Cotto, he's a courageous fighter with a pleasing style, but I really must mention, he's irrefuteably overrated and "unproven" at this point, I mean due to the direction boxing has headed in regards to the infamously desperate "Fraud - Margarito precedent" set in 2006, when we apply this same clause to Cotto,...

HE REALLY DOESNT QUALIFY for a fight with Mosely?.. I mean shouldn't Cotto "beat someone" to be "worthy" of a shot at Shane Mosely, who's resume and achievements, FAAAAAAAAAR surpass that of Fraud's ?..:dunno: :eeeek: whoops

 

Well, EVERY fighter gets tired. ::

But Shane does fight in spurts - he's not as consistent in generating offense as others and does look to take "breathers" esp. in middle/late rounds.

Peace.

 

From fightnews,..

Cotto: "Judah tougher than Mosely!",...................................................

:crafty: Now I know for certain he's in for a loss, so yes Dympeople, pick Cotto by all means.