So Let's Get This Welterweight Picture Sorted Out

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  1. jarhead

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    Pretty much. or waiting for someone besides Margarito to grow a pair.
     
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    REED Wants to See...

    FLOYD vs - Mosley (Preferrably) or Hatton
    COTTO vs - Margarito or Mosley
    MOSLEY vs - Floyd or Cotto
    WILLIAMS vs - Cintron (Being a UNIFIED,2-Belt Champ Dramatically Increases the Likelihood that the WINNER Gets a MONEY Fight)

    Cats like Clottey,Zab,Quintana,Collazo,etc.,Need to Fight EACH OTHER to Get N the Mix...1 Thing ALL of these Names have N Common is that they Each Lost to @ Least 1 Guy N the List ABOVE...& All but Clottey Lost DECISIVELY...


    REED:cool:
     
  3. Double L

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    Clottey lost to Margarito decisively.
     
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    NO he didn't:nono: ...

    If that's the Case,Margarito Lost DECISIVELY to Paul Williams & REED is Pretty Certain YOU'RE RELUCTANT to "Go There"...

    An Example of a DECISIVE Decision Win is Shane Over Collazo...Margarito-Collazo WASN'T Controversial,but it WASN'T "Decisive" Either...


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    i'll go "there." and the reason is because the two fights aren't comparable at all.

    margarito/clottey was close early on but margarito won at least 3 of the last 4 rounds. to me it was decisive.

    maybe we have different definitions. to me, the absence of controversey means the absence of uncertainty, which means decisive.

    i guess there could be close rounds that could've gone either way, and so a decision might not be criminal, or a robbery, but i'd still call it controversial if it could've gone either way.

    i see no way Clottey possibly won that fight. by definition, it was decisive.
     
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    So was Margarito-Williams "Decisive" ???:dunno: ...

    The Fight WASN'T the Least Bit Close Early...N Fact,U COULD Characterize Williams as Being DOMINANT During the Early Portion,if U're So Inclined...

    Margarito Made a Run LATE,but it was OBVIOUS that he had LOST the Fight,even Prior to the REEDing of the Scorecards...He Simply Ran Out of Rounds & LOST the 12th Clearly...

    So Again REED Asks, was Margarito-Williams "Decisive"???


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    well that's where we disagree. i thought Margarito won 3 of the first 5, so i can't agree with your assessment that Williams was dominant.

    Williams fought a good fight, no doubt, but i honestly didn't see him land nearly as many clean hard shots as Margarito did. don't get me wrong. he got in his share of sharp counters, but most of his offense was flicking and pawing.

    and Margarito landed a "lot" of body-shots. all through-out the fight.

    it was definitely a close fight. and the case could be made for either fighter having won. i wouldn't call it decisive in the least.
     
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    R U HIGH or Something???...

    NO WAY N Hell did Margarito Win 3 of the 1st 5,DOUB:nono: ...U're Taking the Role of Margarito APOLOGIST to NEW Heights,Dog...

    @ BEST,Margarito Won 1 of the 1st 5 Rounds & U Could POSSIBLY Give him a DRAW N 1 of the Other Rounds...REED Scored Round 4 for Margarito Clearly & Round 3 could POSSIBLY B Seen as EVEN,but Margarito DID NOT Win it...

    w/Out Question,Williams Won Rounds 1,2 & 5...& REED Actually Thought he Won Round 3 (but Again,Being as PRO Margarito as Possible,that Particular Round was EVEN)...

    Williams was BOUNCING Uppercuts,Hooks,Left Crosses & Jabs Off of Margarito's Head...Margarito Might have Landed the HARDER Shots,but it's NOT like Williams was N there Pitty Patting:nono:


    The Fight WAS Close,but REED Can't Accept ANY Case for Margarito WINNING It...

    Not a Chance...It was Every Bit as "Decisive" as Margarito's win Over Clottey,N REED's Opinion...


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    these are great fights.:cheer:

    I especially like the Williams/Cintron fight, great for the fans and cleans up the division for a megafight.

    I would prefer Hatton stay at 140, he can't hang at 147 IMO.
     

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