Sooooo....Is Taylor BETTER than U Thought OR is Pavlik WORSE than U Thought???...

Pavlik most certainlh is not, "simple."

And Taylor's absolute inability to fight inside is what left him with no chance whatever to beat Pavlik. That's a rather large "wrinkle" to be without.

 

You act like he isn't conservative for a reason :doh:

 

Pavlik will chickenshit out of the Tito fight.

 

I doubt that.

Pavlik seems like the kind of guy to take on all comers and Tito is a big name. whether or not Tito takes it is the question.

 

actually it does matter. you said he proved he was better and that TAylor was worst. Yet the result was a close decision when most expected a quicker ko by Pavlik.

The result contradicts your comment. Even if you didn't think Pavlik can win by decision. YOu have to take into account how the fight went. Pavlike managed to hurt him and get him out of there in half the the time in the first fight.

That was expected going into the second fight and Pavlik had more trouble with Taylor. opcorn:

 

Good post :clap:

 

Pavlik has shown he is capable of beating taylor by KO or decision which is better than I thought he could do. You are arguing just to argue. :doh:

 

Like I said the last time I checked stamina was 1 of the intangibles of boxing just like anything else. It's not like Taylor don't train hard. his own words were he trained the hardest that he ever has. :doh:

 

Exactly. Pavlik would be a fool not to take a payday like that, while Tito can make good loot no matter which guy he faces.

Neither guy would be afraid to take on the other..I guarantee you that.

 

The fat fuck Tito cant make 160.

 

We keep coming full circle, Oscar and Taylor are known for it. No matter how many times you make the straw man "they train hard and everyone gets tired" will never change facts about their style.

 

But Pavlik can make super middle.

 

That's right it's part of there style. :dunno: It's part of why Pavlik is superior to taylor and the better fighter. Taylor will never fight down to the level of Pavlik because Pavlik is BETTER. It's really not that complicated, nor should it take all these posts.

 

Taylor only worked as hard as Pavlik made him.

 

I don't know about Pavlik being decapitated. I think that Tito is a better fighter then Taylor. He has better arsenal of punches and he got that left hook that can ruin anybodys night. Not to mention Pavlik will be there for Tito to hit. I would love to see that fight take place. Now I would favor Pavlik over Tito. But I tell you what. Pavlik was bothered by those body shots and if Tito attacks Pavliks body like he did Roy's then that would open up other shots. If this fight jumps off I can see a potiential foty. I'll Holla 5000

 

no I"m not!

you make it sound like Pavlik outboxed Taylor to a decision or something. ::

He did the same shit he did in the first fight but he couldn't stop him. Taylor made adjustments so Pavlike underperformed from the first fight.

You also said that Taylor proved to you that he was worst. Well he lost a close decision instead of being brutally kod in half a fight. your right he is definately worst than he had showned.

saying Pavlik can also beat him in a decision doesn't prove he is a better fighter than before. He just couldn't finish him like he did before. opcorn:

 

best thread in a while - i was a bit of both... disappointed a tiny lil bit in Pavlik because he didn't seem to be able to get some deciding punches in. Taylor on the other hand had the clearer shots IMO. I was a little surprised that the scorecards were so clear a draw or a Taylor victory wouldn't have surprised me. But to be honest i didn't score the rounds exactly and maybe the good start by Taylor and the fact that he didn't melt like in the first fight was more impressive to me than what Pavlik did. However i have no problem with Pavlik sweeping the later rounds and being the deserved winner.

 

I thought Taylor did good considering he was coming off a brutal knockout and the first loss of his career. I predicted he'd fight smarter and it would go to the scorecards. I thought Pavlik won, but one thing about Taylor. He seems to fight just enough to lose or win. Against Hopkins twice and the bouts with Wright and Spinks, he has gotten the benefit of the doubt with the judges in close fights.

 

You don't say......::

 

Yeah, and Taylor's chin has proven to be better than people suspected.

I'm really starting to notice how ridiculous lederman is now.

He said Taylor was the harder hitter, which was quite clearly not true, at that point he was landing the odd flashy combo, but nothing that hard looking.

Merchant said "what makes you think that?" And lederman said something utterly retarded like "That's a judge's job" ::

 

let's all compare how Taylor came back from being brutally KO'd by PAvlik...to how, say, Roy Jones came back from being lightly KO'd by Tarver :crafty:

 

Like I said, they really need to fire Harold ASAP. His scorecards are getting worse and worse, and he's saying dumber shit every telecast. Time to can him!

 

example: how the fuck did lederman give taylor round 4? :dunno:

round 4 was one of pavlik's best rounds and lederman gave it to taylor. ::

taylor tried to steal rounds in the final seconds - i hate fighters that do that.

 

Do U "Hate" when DeLa Does that???...


REED::

 

dsimon writes:

Double L said he hates when "fighters" do that. Osscar with is lingeria wearing, throw the fight to Hopkins ways ain't no fighter! ::

 

yeah. usually he need not resort to it, but it was his primary strategy against tito and that's why his loss to him was just - that and the fact that he ran for the last two rounds.

but odh isn't a serial last second round stealer like srl was, for example.

 

I scored round 4 for Pavlik, too, but 2 of the judges scored it for Taylor. And ringside Lederman did, too. So add in our 2 off-tv scoring and it's still 50/50.

 

dismon, comedy isn't your thing. your strength is parroting the posts of posters that you feel the need to be friends with - you're like a high school student trying be part of the "cool" crowd. and with very little to say.

 

Well u can't tell... saying Pavliks where harder is the same bullshit. No one knows how hard those guys punch compared to each other. But to ME Taylor's LOOKED clearer, crisper and because of that harder. You call it flashier. I mean you and Larry don't know more then Harold on this do ya?