Soto won; HBO and GBpcredibility gone; sport on edge of collapse.

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Guzman was blocking most of Soto's shots, while landing clean punches the entire time.

I can't be blamed if someone's vision is to poor to see how many of one guy's shots land. Soto was the definition of ineffective, and Guzman was cleaning house despite his shameful running.

 

this kind of thing is wh you shouldn't drink and post.

You are kidding yourself if you claim objectivity, and that Guzman "barely" won many of the 7 you decided to give him.

If anyone barely won anything, it was Soto barely scraping more than 2 rounds.

 

I think you're talking about the 10th, when Cotto was stunned by a right hand and then the ref broke them up to clean the water spot?

Get your rounds straight, too.

Cotto wasn't hurt in the 9th...and similar to the 11th, boxed very effectively off the back foot and landed heavy, clean jabs and counter-combinations off the ropes.

It was a great fight, and I have no problem with anyone who had it close.

Peace.

 

which is because it, unlike the guzman fight, was close.

Cotto didn't "start moving because he knew he was winning." If you buy junk like that when fighters say it you deserve to be lied to. Cotto was visibly shaken up in the 9th, and then again in the 10th before the action was halted.

 

Like I said, I have no problem with an 8-4 card and respect that.

And you have no round-by-round scoring to stand on, going from giving Soto only one round in your first post - to now saying he could have won 3 or 4.

Then as we have more civil discussion, your tone gets more vitriolic, simply because you have to stand on your generalization instead of providing specifics.

If you had it 9-3 or 10-2....fine.

Like I said, Guzman (the right guy) won, and we all agree on that.

Nothing more useful to do here.

Peace.

 

Tell me at what time of the 9th round he was visibly shaken up in, please. I've rewatched that fight several times.

It was in the 10th that he was caught by a big Mosley right coming off the ropes and was stunned - yet still in control of his faculties. It was Mosley HIMSELF who slipped and pointed at the spot to the ref, who then stopped the action....for all of 10 seconds.

Also, I wasn't the one that said Cotto moved "because he was winning."

YOu insist on wanting to generalize and accuse me of stuff others are saying.

There were guys that scored that fight 8-4 for Cotto. Perhaps you should talk to them and make sure you have your facts right.

Good night.

 

i dont give two drops what you respect. I'm not gonna sit through a dreadful fight to watch because you were bored into giving the guy who was geting dominated rounds because he was at least trying to force the action.

My tone is straightforward, you have expressed an irrational and impossible belief, and rather than continue talking at your level, I'm calling a spade a spade.

The fight was not close, not only have you said 8-4 or 7-5 is good, you have expressed that guzman "barely" won many of the rounds you've decided to give him. That is just wrong. Guzman won the fight in a landslide, and that you have given analysis is ridiculous.

How bout the first round. A clear Guzman round on clean punching.

 

the only generalization that will go on from here on, is that you don't know how to score a fight.

 

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