Sugar Ray Radio Interview

LOL.

If it worked that way Marvis Frazier would have had concussive power.

If Floyd had been "seriously" hurt against Zab or Shane, which means: had he been close to being stopped..then REED and yourself would have had a case for Leonard stopping Floyd. I would also be on your side.

But Zab stunned him for an INSTANT and Shane hurt him momentarily (a few seconds)...and Floyd was still advancing on Shane towards the end of that round.

So citing those two instances is the WEAKEST case imaginable and shows a severe case of "REVERSE NUTHUGGERY" (Copywright Destruction and Mayhem, 2011).

 

"Family Chin" is a ridiculous remark that goes as far in one ridiculous direction as Sly was going in the other direction

 

come on...that's funny.

Go to Youtube and type in Roger Mayweather Knocked out.

opcorn:

 

I agree it was funny:giggle:

 

Nonsense...

Zab AND Shane (ie., the 2 Most ATHLETIC Guys Floyd's EVER Fought to Date) have Visibly HURT Floyd More than Anybody has...Those 2 have ILLUSTRATED that Floyd Isn't QUITE the Unhittable Force that U're Portraying him to B...Add Chop Chop Corley to the Mix Too, who was Fairly Athletic 1nce Upon a Time...If NOT for the Ropes, Floyd Would've Certainly had his BACK Touch the Canvas in that Bout...

Perhaps this ESCAPES U, but Sugar Ray Leonard was AS Athletic (Probably MORESO, Actually) as Any of those Fighters & he had Genuine RING INTELLECT & COURAGE to Boot...

What's "Weak" is How U're IGNORING Evidence of 3 Different Guys HURTING your Hero, w/SINGLE SHOTS No Less & DISMISSING Sugar Ray Leonard's Chances of Stopping him...LESSER Fighters than Ray Leonard have Placed Floyd Mayweather in PRECARIOUS Positions, Homey...

Sorry, but that CANNOT B Ignored...



REED:nono:

 

I pick SRL by decision but a stoppage is far from unreasonable. Leonard had good power, especially in his left hook, and is one of the ATG finishers.

 

& that's ALL REED is Suggesting...REED ISN'T Guaranteeing it or Anything, but it's SILLY for Brother Sly to Act as if it's Completely OUT of the Realm of Possibility...Especially Based on the Judah, Mosley & Corley Fights...



REED:mj:

 

Leonard could do serious damage with single punches. One left hook in the sixth round greatly changed the course of the first Hearns fight. He threw that double left hook against Howard, to the body and head, and once it landed upstairs, Howard was on spaghetti legs and it was the beginning of the end. One short right hand totally changed the momentum of the Lalonde fight, and the fight was soon over after Leonard smelled blood. Green was out cold from that combination, mainly from that final left hook.

Leonard probably lacked the raw power/heavy handedness of a lot of fighters, but his speed, timing, and accuracy meant that one punch could put you in serious trouble.

 

Floyd Sr lasted 10 with Leonard. He was not only inferior to Floyd, but he had a bad leg.

SRL might be bigger than Floyd, but not by much. Leonard was weighing in at 147 in the era of same-day weigh-ins.

Leonard is the obvious pick to win, but I think it's pretty unlikely he stops Floyd.

 

You did guarantee it, homie. And that's what I took issue with. I sense that you're beginning to take a backward step.......

 

no he didnt, dude

he said if Floyd tried to fight inside with Leonard as his strategy, he gets knocked out


he didnt say no matter what, Floyd gets ko'd

he's not backtracking at all, nor should he

Sugar Ray Leonard was a bigger, better welterweight than Floyd Mayweather

 

The gulf between Floyd snr and Floyd Jnr in talent, is the same as the difference between Ray Leonard at 25 and Ray Leonard at 40.

So anyone who wants to bring up The Leonard-Floyd Snr fight as any evidence of what would happen against jnr.....I will counterpoint with the equally ridiculous "If Camacho can do that to Leonard, imagine what Floyd would do".

 

this is preposterous nonsense

 

Leonard would beat Mayweather at Welterweight, IMO. I've always said this.

But he WILL NOT knock out Mayweather in 100 tries. Even in the pocket Floyd is difficult to hit.

 

Again, Mosley, Judah, Corley... these guys could not carry Leonard's jock and they all hurt Mayweather... If Floyd Mayweather boxes, he loses... if he tried to fight, he has a VERY strong chance of getting KOd late

 

Lots of womanbeaters, convicted criminals, and hypocrites thank God. I guess you respect them too. Floyd's had than one domestic violence or theft case. Most of us can't relate to that either.

 

I've wondered more than once how that shoulder roll would work against Ray's left hook. He really sat down on it.

 

Anyone who thinks that Ray Leonard would have stopped Floyd is an idiot.

Thomas Hearns would have had a difficult time stopping Floyd (He didn't stop Benitez) let alone Leonard. I can accept an argument for Hearns stopping Mayweather...simply because Hearns had frightening power but even then it would be no lock. Ray Leonard stop Mayweather? Based on what?

Sometimes I feel like I'm arguing with fools...

 

based on the fighters who couldn't win 10 seconds of a fight with Leonard hurting and or dropping Mayweather

based on the fact that Mayweather wouldn't be the only fast guy in the ring that night

 

Zab dropped Mayweather on a technicality...Floyd's glove touched the canvas. It's disingenuous to say Floyd was dropped. "Dropping Mayweather" suggests he was floored. You know this isn't the case. Also Zab may be a mediocre fighter but one thing he did was hit hard. MIDDLEWEIGHT Jermaine Taylor who hurt HUGE Kelly Pavlik couldn't drop Spinks and Zab stopped him at 147lbs.

Shane hurt Floyd with a specific punch that landed at a specific time which would give it maximum effect (I'm not talking about the first huge right hand..because that didn't noticeably hurt Floyd...I'm talking about the second one which caused his legs to almost give). It wasn't a typical punch and in 100 fights he would only have landed that once. Still...Floyd recovered in seconds. You seem to underrated both Floyd's survival skills as well as his recuperative abilities.

I don't see any way that Ray Leonard, as great as he was, stops Floyd mayweather Jnr...who is himself great, let's not forget.

 

:boohoo:

REED Quite CLEARLY Said if Floyd Fought Leonard "IN THE POCKET"...Your "Senses" R FAULTY, Spidergirl...



REED:dancingBaby:

 

& YOU Actually had the Fucking AUDACITY to Say that REED Knew Nothing about Boxing???hno:....

Leonard was 14-0 & had Been a Pro for LESS than 2 Full Years, after Beating Mayweather...It would B MORE than 10 Fights Before Leonard Faced Benitez in his Very 1st World Title Bout...In NO Way Did Leonard Resemble the Fighter he Would Become...Nonetheless, he STILL KO'ed YOUR Grandfather, Floyd Sr...

You're Reaaaallly REACHING here, Homey...Rewatch Floyd vs. Corley, Zab & Sugar Shane...You Want Evidence???...There it Is...Covering your Eyes, Plugging your Ears & PRETENDING it Doesn't Exist ISN'T Working...



REEDhno:

 

You shouldn't argue with yourself. Leonard stopped Benitez (and Hearns), and Benitez was a defensive genius who could also punch. I'm not saying Ray definitely WOULD have, but I could the possibility being there. Benitez had a good chin and fantastic defensive ability, "the radar".

Different fighters, different eras. Time travel, etc. Nobody could definitively say yes or no, but people could envision the scenario---particularly at welterweight, where Floyd tended not to use his legs as much as he did at Junior Lightweight or Lightweight.

 

Leonard aint stopping Floyd. No way no how. A little glove touching the canvas vs Judah and a little leg wobble vs Mosley aint enough to convince me of that ridiculous notion.

 

Now who's the fool. Ray Leonard, at his welterweight best, likely had more power than Zab or Mosley. And his handspeed was at least comparable although I'd say his handspeed at welterweight was faster than either of theirs.

Plus, he had a bigger frame and covered ground with his footwork faster. That type of fighter would be hell for Floyd Jr.

A green Ray stopped Floyd Jr's daddy. A PRIME Ray WIPES HIS ASS with Floyd Jr!!!! Who dares to disagree???

 

Forget Leonard vs. Floyd Jr., I'd like to see Zab and old Shane in with Tommy Hearns and Wilfred Benitez

 

:giggle:

Ray beats Floyd, but doesn't even come close to stopping him! It would be a close but clear fight for Ray...based on workrate.

Therefore the great D&M dares to disagree!

 

When it comes to Floyd you really are an idiot. You're the only one on here citing speculation as fact, yet you call others here unreasonable. You claim it's out of the realm of possibility that Ray, Hearns or anyone with less than 3 arms could KO Floyd. You're basis for this? Nuthuggery. You sound like those Tyson fans of many moons ago who thought he couldn't be KO'd and watched dumbfounded as Buster Douglas did just that.

You're an idiot and I don't get why they continue to argue with you when it comes to Floyd. Maybe the reason it's possible is because Floyd has shown a suspect chin and both Ray and Hearns have shown above average power and finishing ability.

The only reason it's not possible is because both Hearns and Ray are retired, but unfortunately that's not your argument is it? Now go to your room and play with your Mayweather doll and accessories (Mansion, yacht, maybach, etc).

 

Nah...I'm very intelligent.

Secondly...I've conceded that Hearns stopping Floyd is a possibility. I didn't say that it is out of the realm of possibility. Of course Ray stopping Floyd is possible (everything is possible in boxing) but it's highly unlikely.

If they had never fought: a Nunn-Kalambay Mythical mathup would have always been a "W12" result. But Nunn knocked him out in 1 round. So yes, anything is possible. But I don't see any logical reason to pick Ray stopping Floyd. It's just Floyd hatred that causes such outlandish theories.