T.U.F.- Noguiera vs. Mir...

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  1. ArturoGatti

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    did that emo blonde guy get his spine broken in two?
     
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    Not with the way things are run currently. But what can they do? The fans in attendance boo everything that doesn't involve 2 guys trying to smash eachother's faces. Nobody understands the technical side of MMA. This causes for people to change the channel. No wonder they pushed Kimbo to the moon. Look at the fanbase wearing his shirt. They don't give a crap about true MMA.
     
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    Well EliteXC is dead so no need to talk about them or the fans of Kimbo anymore. Obviously it wasn't enough to keep them from going under.
     
  4. ArturoGatti

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    I thought you guys said this season's talent was much betetr than last's?

    I have only seen the last two episodes, and only Elliot Marshall looked like a pro MMA fighter. Last night's fight was hilarious, in a bad way.
     
  5. *Z*

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    And Elliot lost a fight already and was brought back.
     
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    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Wow. I really thought Junie Browning was going to be better than what he showed last night. The dude he fought really has no business in combat sports and Junie should have easily handled him.

    As it turns out, it was a somewhat competitive yet boring fight. Myabe it was weight-cutting or just shitty nutrition, but Junie looked like dead.
     
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    who are you talking about Gatti?

    Wow, after that fight you have to wonder is Del Gado iron chinned or is Junie feather fisted?:dunno:
     
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    junie brownng, in one of the previews for one of the past episodes he was shown getting thrown in to the edge of the pool by some bigger guy.
     
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    yes I know, I heard it was a controversial sd.
     
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    I agree Trplsec, Junie's fight to get on the show looked like an established Mixed Martial Artist, nice movement, good boxing, fluid transitions, and then last night. I gotta believe it was a little to do with the weight cutting, but man he looked bad
     
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    Vinnie is badass on the ground. WOW. Now don't get me wrong, I think that retard Jules is the worst fighter on the show, out of LW's and LH's but checked him out a bit more on the web, the guy is world class BJJ. If he could get some Muay Thai in his game, he could be fucking awesome. I know that's a big if:lol: I am so glad to see that fuckwad Jules get submitted. Guys a retard, talks so much shit about how he was going to destoy Vinnie in stand up and never let it go to the ground. Then he doesn't even throw a significant punch or kick. That guy shouldn't have even been invited to the show, way too many better 205'ers around the country.:nono:
     
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    I can't believe Mir called Nog's jiu-jitsu basic "bread and butter" stuff.

    Before the start of the TUF season I was probably pulling for Mir to upset Nog. Now I hope Minotauro twist him into a balloon animal.
     
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    I think Mir was trying to say that Nog doesn't get too crazy with his jitsu, keeps it real basic. Which might have some truth in it, but Nog perfects it. He passes guard like no other big man on the planet, and his chokes are spectacular(ask big Tim) but he doesn't go for a flying arm bar. I think the way it was edited made it out that Mir and Vinnie were talking shit
     
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    It was Several Factors...

    OVERconfidence, Weight Cutting & the Fact that Junie's CONSISTENTLY The DRUNKEST Motherfucker N the House...

    The Fight WAS a Letdown though...Junie DIDN'T Even Try to Win the 1st Round...Just Followed Delgado Around the Ring & Basically GAVE him Free Shots...

    But REED was Slightly IMPRESSED w/the Way Junie Dialed it Up to EASILY Take Round 2...Junie was GASSED N Round 3, but Still Clearly Won that 1 as Well....

    Even N Winning, Junie was a Bit HUMBLED Afterwwards, so Hopefully he Takes his Craft More Seriously Down the Road...He's Quite Easily the Most TALENTED of the Lightweights, N REED's Opinion...w/Efrain Being a Distant 2nd...



    REED:kidcool:
     
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    REED Thinks Delgado just Has a Good Chin, Even though his Tall, Skinny Ass Doesn't LOOK like he'd have a Good Chin:lol:...

    N the 2nd & 3rd Rounds, Junie was Dropping BOMBS on Dude...Heavy, THWACKING Shots...

    Delgado just Fought ABOVE Himself that Night...



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    That whole episode was centered around ingesting body fluids. The show is shot.

    The filipino kid looks pretty good.
     
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    Pretty NASTY Episode, No Doubt...

    THE Worst Thing U Can Do to Someone is Subject them to your Body Fluid...But then Again, when Guys R DISrespectful Enough to SEE a Man's Name on HIS Food yet STILL Eat it, they Deserve ANY Form of Payback...

    Speaking of the Filipino Guy, what's Up w/that Half Hatched Chicken he was Eating???:notallthere:...REED had to Actually Fast Forward thru that Shit...After the Piss & Jizz Incidents, a CLOSE-UP of them Eating that Bird was Tooooooo MUCH...

    The Dude CAN Fight Though...Btwn him & Efrain, there's NO Guarantee that Junie Browing Wins his Division...

    The Show Itself ISN'T Shot N REED's Opinion & this Year Consists of MORE Talent than Any REED has Seen...But the Coaches Offer Very Little N Terms of PERSONALITY, that the Producers HAVE to Work in Exterior Elements...

    REED:kidcool:
     
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    Balut. Yeah that's disgusting. Some people eat it raw and bloody, so I'm glad he boiled his. A lot of Filipinos eat that, ask Alabama Man's girl:lol:

    I think he stops Junie if they fight. Junie is just like the guy who got eliminated, a hothead.
     
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    Junie is not winning the show. Phillipe will kill him if they fight but I have a feeling Efrain beats him first. Nover is the only one who looks like a real fighter so far. IMO.
     
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    Here's the Deal w/Junie...

    1. He's TRUELY as Confident as he TALKS, which'll Make him VERY DIFFICULT to Beat...

    OR

    2. His Bravado MASKS his Insecurity & he'll FOLD like a Paper Airplane the 1st Time he's N a Real Fight...



    REED:kidcool:
     
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    My boss was just telling me there was pee drinking going on recently? WTF
     
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    He will fold under pressure. I'm almost sure of it. If he wins I will be shocked.
     
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    That's what Wednesday's show was about besides the fight. They were eating each other's food out of the fridge so they pissed in some fruit and one guy jizzed on some sushi and the food was eaten.
     
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    Eating that duck egg was more nasty than the eating the piss.

    TFK
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    I'm quite enjoying this season. Nog's English aint all that, but he is a likeable guy at least, and quite funny in his own Brazilian way.

    I don't really like Mir. Just seems like a boring, charmless jock.

    Last season was full of chumps (fighting ability wise). This season has better talent, but fuck me, what a bunch of absolute twats :lol: Horrible bunch of cunts, most of them. Primarily Junie and Nelson of course. Nelson has a stupid gay little voice too.

    I enjoyed Junie struggling against that fucking lanky streak of piss. That was a close fight.

    REED, you said Junie was the best 155 pounder, with Efrain a distant second.

    I put it to you that Phillipe would beat the fuck out of the pair of them. I almost guarantee that whichever one he meets, gets crushed with relative ease. I think Junie is the easier fight for him actually. He looked impressive in his first fight, and even more impressive dispatching the dwarf.

    Phillipe is the best fighter on the show. Feinting boy done good.

    By the way, how on earth is this going to work with 2 weight classes? Are there going to be 2 finals and 2 winners this season?
     
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    The Pranks R Starting to Become LAME...There's NATHAN Funny about WASTING an Hour to Fill a Man's Room w/Furniture OR 2 Hours to Put EVERY Kitchen Utensil on a Basketball Court:boohoo:...

    REED'll Stop SHORT of Calling him a PRICK, but Frank Mir Clearly ISN'T the "Friendliest" Guy N the World...It's Probably UNfair to Compare him to Noguiera & the Relationship he has w/His Guys, but U CAN'T Help but do Just That...

    During the Coaches Soccer Challenge, Mir WASN'T Even Trying to Win for his Team, whereas Noguiera did EVERYTHING he Could to Get Some Money for his Guys...

    It WAS Cool how Both Noguiera & Mir Took Tidbits from the Soccer Challenge & Applied it their Upcoming Fight...Noguiera Said he Could SEE "Fear" N Mir's Eye's & Mir Basically Said Noguiera SUCKED Athletically...

    Like Most of the 1st Round Fights, Last Night's Bout was Pretty 1-Sided...The Semi-Final Round Should REALLY B Good Though...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    You and I have exactly the same take on last night's show. I thought Mir was an absolute dick for not trying harder to stop shots by Nog. Noguiera, on the other hand, was diving after balls and even banging into the goal post. And I would bet my house that Noguiera was motivated far more by winning 1K for his team as opposed to scoring the 10 for himself.

    I said it early in this thread and I'll say it again. Coming into this season I was really hoping Mir would beat Nog and become a factor among the HW's again. However, you can't help but like Noguiera. The dude is genuinely nice and cares about the guys on his team. Hell, his boy got his ass kicked last night and Nog was promising to help him train even after the show was over.

    And I love how Mir deduces that he his more athletically gifted than Noguiera after getting beaten in the challenge. I'm now hoping more than ever that Nog and his plain jane jiu-jitsu absolutely destroys Mir.
     
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    Yeah...

    Even w/the Language Barrier, Nog's NICENESS Comes Thru...He's a Big Ol' Likable TEDDY BEAR...

    Is it just REED or does Mir ALWAYS Seem "Uneasy" Whenever he's Around Nog???...
    REED:hammert:
     
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    I totally agree. The pranks have become pointless and boring, just a waste of time.

    I agree with the rest of your post too. I don't like Mir at all, I think he is a cock. And with Nog, you can just tell he's not putting it on, he's a genuinely good guy. He sincerely wanted to win the money for his team, rather than the 10 grand for himself.

    Mir couldn't give a toss, and had the cheek to say he was a better athlete.

    I hope Nog crushes Mir in the first round, and I just think he might. Mir looks pretty scared of Nog to my eyes.

    By the way, something that's confused me for a while on TUF. When a fighter loses, do they have the option of staying in the house or not? Some stay and some go, it's odd.
     
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