Tank Davis vs Rolly Romero

Mayweather had minimal issues with Sosa... less than Mosley had with Holiday, Duran had with Viruet, and less than Whitaker had with Roger. Non issue tbh, I don't even know what the point you were trying to make was.

The adjustments to infighting Mayweather made to shut Mosley down would work against any Mosley coz Mosley was too stupid to overcome them. It'd just take longer to make them because he'd have to deal with the speed, workrate and power and not get overwhelmed first.

But Mayweather always wins. He's just a much better fighter.

 

I think Mayweather vs 2000 Mosley is a super close fight. I lean towards Mayweather slightly but I don’t think Floyd dominates him.

 

I think it'd be something like 8-4.

 

Beyond All You Said, Don’t Underestimate Floyd’s OWN Contribution to Becoming Overrated…

Calling Himself TBE, Constantly Pointing @ His “0”, Despite ARGUABLY Losing the Castillo Fight and Shitting on Boxing Legends Because “They Have Losses”…

Floyd was the Best Fighter of HIS Era, But TBE is a Joke That Isn’t the Bit Funny…






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agREED.

Sugar Shane Beats the Shit Out of Floyd @ ‘35…





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For sure. Floyd has repeatedly shitted on Ali, Leonard, and others because they have losses despite the fact that all of them fought better competition than Floyd.

Most young fans don’t really do the homework. They just go with what’s trendy and popular and in this era, if you like Floyd the. You are considered someone who “knows boxing.” With Canelo it’s even WORSE.

I know Canelo fans who think that Canelo would mop up Hagler and Monzon at 160. And others who’ve said that if he had been able to remain at 154, he’s have been the GOAT at that weight and he couldn’t even beat an old Mayweather, and arguably lost to both Lara and Trout.

Popularity and clout is all that it takes for someone to be crowned a GOAT in anything these days.

 

If you eliminate Floyd's reputation, and simply go by the results and the eye test, Mosley was far more impressive than Floyd at 135.

Floyd had 4 fights at lightweight, and in the minds of most he went 3-1 in those four fights. He won the Castillo rematch, but it was highly forgettable. Then he dropped 4 rounds to Vic Sosa.

Picking Floyd to school Shane at lightweight goes against reality and is simply based on the TBE myth.

Mosley is the favorite at lightweight.

At 147, it's more arguable who wins.

 

There is no universe ever where Mosley looks better than Mayweather by the eye test.

 

Georgie is knowledgeable as fuck, he really is, and we all love him despite heated debates with him every day (which is healthy) so this isn't a slight on him at all: But he is a from a generation of boxing fans who've been indoctrinated with the Floyd GOAT propaganda.

Most of us remember when ALLL these guys were in their primes together, and we NEVER considered Floyd some level above the rest of the crop. That was alllllllll the mainstream media that created that bullshit.

There was a time when it was laughable to mention Floyd in the same breath as Leonard, Duran, Whitaker, ect. And this was during Floyd's PEAK.

He just stayed excellent for a very long time. His peak and his peak performances by themselves are far from GOAT worthy.

Once again I'll state, this dude fell into the title P4P #1 by default after Roy and Hop became senior citizens.

 

So Mosley couldn't improve on what Castillo and Sosa did?

Floyd looked great a grand total of.... 1 time at lightweight, against Philip Ndou... an average ass fighter, at BEST.

 

Mosley should be worried about improving on his actual performance where he won one round.

 

Yeah...12 years after departing lightweight, and 9 years removed from his peak.

Roy won 1 round against Calzaghe. Is that indicative of how a prime Roy would fare against Calz?

 

Mosley blamed his listless performance Vs Holliday on his having the squirts, brought on his taking an excess of creatine.

Talk about foreshadowing

In fact, Holliday was just a good boxer who had handled Ivan Robinson with some ease.

Going 12 with Holliday in your first title fight was no shame.

 

It's ironic, Floyd's an ATG lightweight having done....nothing at lightweight

The thing is we know he'd have held his own against any 135lbr in history but we don't have the receipts.

Doesn't change what we all know, though.

It's like Vitali. We know he'd have been ok Vs any heavyweight..doesn't win, but doesn't get blown out either.

Sometimes you just know.

 

Philip Holiday was a helluva lot better than Victor Sosa.

 

The ponderous Jim Watt would out-box every Floyd and Mosley LW opponent

 

Whilst simultaneously giving a hyper critical account of where they were going wrong....

 

Sosa didnt win 4 rounds. I was a that shitty fight in fresno. mayweather jr basically won the fight easily with only his jab. in that camp he hardly used the right hand at all and same for the fight.

in other news that horse shit fight sold nearly 500k homes on ppv.

ridiculous numbers for davis vs a novice scrub.

 

That basically confirms that Tank vs Ryan will break 1 mil buys.

 

or maybe those numbers were incorrect. gorda rafael says 275k

 

Maybe he was referring to the number of Taco Bell runs he's made this month.

 

Right now Ryan tugging his knob on OnlyFans would do massive numbers.

 

Dan Rafael is the man. Can you score a fight without seeing it? No.

 

He can't see a fight nor can he see his penis.

 

Coming off what you listed as a huge upset and a better win than any of Mayweather's at welterweight..

No, because Calzaghe didn't figure out Roy's style and if he did, he didn't do it less than a minute, on the fly. He just outworked Jones and had subsequently become the better athlete. Mayweather was always the better athlete and was always the much better, smarter boxer.

And you know full well Mosley was nowhere near as far gone as Roy was.

 

Of course Shane was nowhere near as good as good as Roy. I would never suggest otherwise. However, he was still a shell of the fighter he was in 2000.

There's not much to glean from Floyd's performance against Shane as an indicator of how it would have gone with a 28-29 year old Mosley. It's not like there was a tiny slide in Shane.

Shane was a better fighter 10 years earlier by LEAPS and BOUNDS.

The comparison I would make that's probably accurate is to liken Shane in 2009 to the 1996 Tyson. 96 Tyson was still formidable, but a shell of 88 Tyson.

 

At His Best, Sugar Shane was Bettter ATHLETICALLY Than ANY Version of Floyd, But Floyd was Always the SMARTER, More TECHNICAL, More LEARNED Fighter…

Floyd Was Taught By his Dad and Uncles, 1 of Which Won Multiple World Titles…Shane Learned from His Dad, Who Has NO Boxing Background That Doesn’t Involve His Son…

Shane was QUICKER of Hand/Foot Than Floyd, However…More ATHLETIC…







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Prime Shane would just have had a whole helluva lot more willingness to take shots and still attack Floyd, while punishing Floyd's body. And Mayweather would have have found it much harder to counter a prime Shane given how fast Shane pulled the trigger back then, and how quickly he could close the distance.

 

Did Floyd ever beat anybody who prime Mosley WOULDN'T have beaten? I can't think of anyone.

Prime Mosley beats an inexperienced Alvarez. He beats the 2012 Cotto for sure. He beats the 2015 Pac. He beats the dog shit outta Castillo, Hatton, and Corrales.

If we flip the question - I don't think Floyd is a lock over the 2000 DLH. Not when the 2007 Oscar took 4 rounds off of him. And though Mosley lost to Forrest, I don't see Floyd as a lock over Forrest.

Winky beats Floyd.

 

Just hit me: One guy hating on Shane hard and caping for Floyd while the rest of the forum points out how overrated Floyd is.

This feels like vintage Fightbeat.