Taylor SHOULD NOT exercise the rematch clause!

Oh man, here come the excuses.

Taylor couldnt finish Pavlik off cause he's a sloppy amatuer!

 

Yes, history had taught us that every fighter who ever got hurt and dropped was never able to get back up and weather the storm.
Pavlik apparently wasn't hurt enough for Taylor to take him out. Enough with the could've would've should've bullsh*t. The better fighter won the fight.
Now go put Rubio's image into your sig and accept your fate.

 

:bears:

 

Steward sucks. That advice about keeping the pace up was so bad, even Larry could process it within milli-seconds. ::

 

slystaff is in complete denial about this fight.:laughing: He's doing everything he can to ease the backlash and by that, he's now done a complete 180 and is talking massive sh*t on his own boy and calling for his retirement. Apparently it seems staff is only NOW discovering that Taylor had flaws. As if he never even watched Taylor's previous fights. Ignorant! ::

 

Sorry Hanzy..but you are a photoshop guy, a guy that talks about shitting in work cubicles, having homoerotic thoughts and a spammer of teh TAA forum with a bunch of pointless stupid threads. I can't take you seriously in a boxing forum, and your opinions here are worth :shit:

Leave this discussion for the rest of us and go photoshop someone while listening to some hindustani chanting...

 

Steward is a Roy Jones wannabee. He wants to be able to tell you whats going to happen before it does. When he fails and says he knew that would happen anyway

 

You've been owned left and right, staffy.:: The world is against you right now. Talking sh*t about me won't ease your pain. Now go put up the sig and be a man for once in your life. Your little insults do nothing to me.:tease:

 

Honour your sig bet, staff!

 

You do know that someone has to lose right? Pavlik isn't really that much better then Taylor from what I saw.

 

Slystaff has jumped off the Taylor wagon.:: He's completely turned against his own boy. Damn bandwagon hopper! Pathetic sh*t, staff. You go down with the sinking ship, you don't talk sh*t about your own boy like that if you're a real fan. How can you even claim any kind of respect now with that kind of behaviour? Talking sh*t on your own fighter like that just because he lost to the better man?
I shudder to think what you'll say if Floyd gets KTFO too.

 

The problem is that Taylor (or his people) will eventually be convinced that the post 160 weight limit will make all the difference in the rematch. Champions generally have a ton of confidence, and while that confidence level may wane after a humbling loss, it is only a matter of days before they start rationalizing and regaining their mental swagger.

Taylor will make the rematch over 160 because he will convince himself that the weight was the key to his failure.

 

I have, can't you see? Xplosive owns my sig. Now, I didn't have a sig bet with rubio so why would I put up his image?

 

The only way that Floyd can get KTFO, at the moment, is by a bodyshot and ANYONE can be KOed by a bodyshot.:nono: Floyd has great stamina, great defense, proven chin.

Floyd has proven himself against the best, I'll never leave that bandwagon.

 

dsimon writes:

Yes. That ties into what CPA said as well. Good post.

The problem is that when one is left analyzing the fight and drawing conclusions.... it is hard to see this fight as being a case where Taylor was a victim of circumstances.:: Frankly this fight seems more like confirmation. Firstlly that Taylor is strong but not a devistating puncher. That he is still rough around the edges in a few skill sets and that he gets help from the judges. He won't be able to do much damage at a higher weight class, he reminds me of Lacy.... Strong as an oxe but punching wise?

Pavlik's confirmation on the other hand shows that he has whiskers, can deal with a hard shot or two or three:: and could easily go up in weight with his punching power...

 

What a fucking cop-out by Xplosive.

 

What are you babbling on about? Sorry to tell you this, but the rest of us don't know what's going on in that imaginary world of yours. You seem to think that Xplosive did something to you..but that never happened.

This thread is about Taylor not exercising the rematch clause, perhaps you have forgotten.....

 

Considering that he VERY NEARLY had Pavlik KO's in the 2nd, he should take the rematch clause after 1-2 fights to get his confidence back.

 

dsimon writes:

What some fail to realize is that when you actually Analyze the fight accordingly this is what you get:

1) Pavlik. Very good, is young and could conceivably move up to challenge at a higher weight class (he is 25). I could see him growing a bit and carrying his power to as far as light heavy. I weighed 180 when I was 25 and... while still in shape in my thirties I walked around at 220 easy. What this means is that Pavlik can easily fight Calzighe, Kessler now. Those are big fights. He can also dominate the middle weight divisions in the meantime as long as he stays away from cuteys like Winky.

2) Taylor. Cannot deal with Pavlik, doubtful he would win in a rematch. Can't really beat boxers going down in weight. Cannot carry power to higher divisions. Power not substantial enough, Calzighe, Kessler would make Taylor look exactly like Lacy. Too many fundamental flaws! These flaws are part of Taylor. Really... in the final analysis what does Taylor do now? Unless he can find a way to beat Pavlik?

 

WTF pussy?

 

Don't worry about it...Rubio doesn't remember things that happened 5 minutes ago. I'm sure, right now he has no idea himself what prompted that moment of madness. We must sympathize with his condition...

 

I agree with you. In reality the idea of an extra few pounds will likely aid Pavlik as much or more than Taylor.

My real point wasn't that the weight would matter, but that Taylor and his people will be trying to find any reason to rationalize the loss and use the rematch clause.

 

You won a sig bet with Slystaff, and you didn't even have him wear a picture of a horse.

 

I'm a grown ass man, y'all taking those horse joke things to an extreme is childish. I laugh at them sometimes, but for the most part I find them immature.

Plus though we disagree alot, Sly is my boy. I couldnt do him that bad.

Grow up.

 

Have to agree with Rubio, Xplosive really flailed on that one. The horse stuff isn't even a little bit funny... but that picture is. ::

 

"Xplosive is superior to me in every way. I will no longer question his judgement, or logic, and I bow at his brilliance"

Weak.

Xplosive should, IMO, be banished from the world of sig betting. That shit is weak.

 

So when Hasim Rahman knocked out Lennox Lewis that meant Hasim was head and shoulders above Lennox and Lennox shouldn't have dared try and avenge that loss? Given the ending indicates who is far superior and all...



Pavlik/Taylor would have been a shit fight had it not been competitive...which means they both had to be at or near the same level. Pavlik was a little better than Taylor. Not by so much that Taylor has no chance in a rematch, especially given he had Pavlik in almost as much trouble as he got into in the seventh round (that was razor close to being over in the second.)

If Taylor sucks now that means Pavlik is a little bit better than 'suck.' In reality both are great...Pavlik is just a little better.

 

I don't think Taylor has a chance at winning a rematch, but I think he's got the balls to take the rematch because of a bruised ego.


One of my main complaints about Taylor dating back to the very beginning (and those who know me, know I've said this for years) is that he has always punched as though he were hitting the mitts.

Meaning, there are some trainers who call out punches or numbers and the fighter simply responds to the verbal call of the trainer. Steward doesn't do this as much as Pat Burns did and I'd always said Pat Burns was a great conditioning coach, terrible trainer.

Part of Jermain's problem is that he never punches at openings, he punches in the same repetitive patterns. Contrast that with Pavlik, who punched at the openings he saw, Taylor will never be able to beat a taller, stronger more offensively gifted fighter than himself.

If you let Taylor sit back and select his shots, he can beat you if you're the Freddy Cuevas's of the world. Against better guys, even smaller guys, he has trouble getting off offensively "however" due to a size and strength advantage it allows him to get away with his normal patterned punch selection.

I said this on another board, but I'd like to see the fans in Little Rock welcome Taylor with open arms when he goes back home. He's never been a bad guy and most of the venom spit towards him dealt with the people around him moreso than Taylor himself...and I'm guilty of that too. I didn't like Burns, don't like DiBella.

Taylor's a guy who has shown nothing but pride and represented where he's from well. I thought it was highly disrespectful of the local guys to clown him like that.

This loss could damage Taylor psychologically seeing that he went into this fight determined to prove something to the fans in Little Rock who left him. Pavlik's punches certainly hurt him, but a city he's had nothing but love for turning its back on him will hurt far more.

 

Taylor is the dumbest elite fighter Ive ever seen.

I swear, Nard must be banging his head against a wall right now wondering how he ever blew TWO fights against this brainless amateur.

 

I'm glad you don't live in Little Rock. ::

If Bernard weren't content with throwing 12 punches a round, he would have taken care of business in the first fight.