Team Mayweather: "Cotto Not Important"

Cotto-Margarita WON'T Do the #'s that Cotto-Mosley Did, N REED's Opinion...200-250,000 Max, if Cotto-Mosley did 400,000...

MAINSTREAM Fans will Look @ it as Cotto vs T.B.A. & Probably IGNORE it til the HBO Replay...That's WHY Cotto NEEDS Floyd to Some Degree...He Needs that NAME on his Ledger to BECOME a PPV Draw Himself, Much like Floyd Needed DeLa...

If Arum is SMART, he'll Put Cotto-Margarito on HBO, Instead of HBOPPV...Cotto will Get MORE LIVE Exposure that Way & So will Margarita...


REED

 

I just did a quick search and it seems Cotto-Mosley did around 340,000 which is much lower than what I remember the early estimates were.

 

REED, why do you keep talking about mainsteam fans? What do they have to do with us? We are actual fans of the sport, you're not debating with the mainsteam here and we don't give a shit about them.

We are boxing fans, we want good fights. The mainstream doesn't know James Toney from Wlad Klitschko. Can you stop defending Floyd's every move for once and just be a fan and demand good fights be made? I know you like Floyd and I am questioning whether you actually want him tested, I think you want him to retire undefeated and untested.

 

It might be good for Cotto have it in Vegas so Cotto can headline a fight there. He's fought there on undercards but I don't know if he's ever headlined any fight there.

It won't matter for possible matchups with Mayweather or De La Hoya because those fights will sell out Vegas regardless, but maybe for other possible future matchups. Trinidad seemed to do well at the box office in both Vegas and New York.

 

How much did Mayweather vs. Bumdomir,Judah,Gatti did?? similar to COTTO ppv numbers...300-350K range...

Mayweather worked his ass off to become more mainstream after the DLH fight...but we still have not seen him in a PPV fight where HBO doesn't throw a TON of money into promoting the fight...24/7...and such...

 

I agree.

It's better for his overall growth as a marketable fighter if he fights more in Vegas and can establish himself as a more of a draw on the West Coast.

 

Cotto vs. Margarito should happen in NYC....packed arena. Cotto should just wait to fight in Vegas till a fight against Mayweather or DLH comes around...

 

Agreed.

Mayweather didn't have a lot of early pay per view success. He didn't get great numbers. For his ppv with Gatti, he actually had to take less money, and the Baldomir pay per view supposedly lost Goossen Tutor a lot of money (with the $8 million and $1).

Before the DLH fight Mayweather wasn't a ppv star. That fight did more for his marketability than any one fight has done for another fighter that I can think off the top of my head, and both and his handlers have been extremely smart in how they've gone about things since then.

That was the only reason DLH-Cotto would have made any sense, but I don't think DLH wants a fight like that this late in his career.

 

For whatever it's worth, De La Hoya said he wants Cotto after the Maywaether fight.

 

In terms of crowds, few things in the sport can match Cotto at MSG, especially the weekend of the Puerto Rican parade.

But long term, it's beneficial if he can increase his ppv numbers on the West Coast...which is where Arum usually markets his product to the most.

It's sorta interesting, though, two of Arum's biggest stars at the moment - Cotto and Pavlik - are more of East Coast attractions.

Really, though, Margarito isn't going to draw any fans to the East Coast and Cotto's support there should be solid whether it's there or in Vegas. But maybe Margarito can draw at least some fans to the fight, plus Arum will likely load the undercard up with Mexican fans...so Mexico vs. Puerto Rico should be in full effect.

 

Reallly?

I hadn't seen that but it's pleasing to read.

I guess he's looking at that for December.

 

He claims he wants to fight in December, but I doubt it.

If he won the rematch with Mayweather and there's no rubber match, a Cotto-DLH match would most likely wait until the Cinco De Mayo weekend in 2009.

Way more time to properly promote the fight, and also take a rest before a long training camp.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical of that as well.

His talk of three fights this year and then retirement may have about as much of a chance as "four fights, four knockouts".

 

1st of All, if U've HONESTLY Convinced YOURSELF that Floyd Mayweather Is "Untested", U're NOT a Boxing Fan:nono: ...Floyd Mayweather is Probably THE Most PROVEN Fighter N ALL of Boxing...& if U CAN'T Bring Yourself to ADMIT that, there's Really NO Point N U Entering Floyd Mayweather Threads...

2nd, REED has Made his Points CRYSTAL Clear...Floyd Mayweather BETTER Fight the Cotto-Margarita WINNER (Cotto, Cause Margarita DOESN'T Have a Chance) OR REED'll Become 1 of his Critics...

Perhaps this is YOUR 1st Time Hearing REED Say this, but it's GOT to B the 267th Time he's TYPED It...



REED

 

He proved he was a great lightweight, since then he hasn't proved to be great in any division he's visited. And if you dare say a win over Balodmir proved anything I will e-slap you silly! ::

He's a great fighter no doubt, I will never say otherwise but there is something very wrong with the p4p best boxer alive fighting old ass Oscar and then Hatton who he just KO'd. He is straight up wasting his best years. Is he not?

 

Sure Cotto is the best out there but he don't represent the most $$$$.

Mayweather is the best and represents the most $$$. So Cotto needs to fight Mayweather more.

My problem with you and other Mayweather haters is that Floyd gets 100% of the lame for the fight not happening. When the truth is that Cottos company who decide who he fights have never ever tried to make a fight with Cotto. If they had they would have told the world liket hey did when Floyd wouldn't fight Margarito. So the blame is at least 50% Cotto for this fight not taking place yet.

Think of Hatton the guy Mayweather was ducking back in 05. If that fight happened then it would have done 400,000 buys at best. It happened in 08 and done 850,000.

 

Sorry, but the 1st Hatton Fight SHOULD Pacify the HATERS Somewhat...

He was "Old Business" that Floyd SHOULD'VE Taken Care Of back when he was a Jr. Welter, but Better LATE than Never...Floyd TOOK Hatton's "0" from him & that CAN'T B Minimized:nono: ...

The Baldomir Fight was a NECESSARY Evil Mandated by "Lineal" Advocates...The 1st DeLa Fight was @ a Weight Floyd has NOfuckingBUSINESS Fighting @, Against a LARGER Man, for More Money than Floyd Could Turn Down...


REED

 

Floyd is the best boxer on earth......and also the biggest cunt.