Texas commission refuses to release Pacman/Margarito test results?

Great question. They probably test for Blood Apple Pie Content.

 

See?

MTF

 

Yeah, the attorney is walking a fine line and may have crossed it. If the results of one or both boxers had been dirty, then the boxers' interests would be conflicted. Sometimes the standard is just 'reasonably foreseeable' when it comes to conflicts.

And to think that pro boxers testing dirty isn't reasonably foreseeable is a tough sell.

I don't know the capacity in which Petrocelli represents both boxers, but I doubt he can represent both when it relates to drug testing just like he wouldn't be able to represent both when it comes to drafting a contract for their fight.

 

Without consent... they won't release the results to anyone inquiring, without consent from both parties. They have that right and no it's not a story if people know the rules in advance.

That said, they would be obligated to report to the ABC if either of them tested positive for anything. Rafael could've just as easily went that route. It's as simple as obtaining a Fight Fax report.

 

Cool. Do you know anything about the quality of the drug testing program in Texas?

 

Not really, although the fact that pre-fight drug testing isn't required in the state of Texas doesn't bode very well for their program.

 

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Looks like he leveled off just in time. He's not just a professional boxer but a professional PED user too. Good for him.

 

What forces them to submit a positive test to the ABC?

 

The Professional Boxing Safety Act.

 

to clarify on this - commissions are only required to file with ABC in the event of disciplinary action taken.

This is to avoid situations like what happened with Roy Jones and Richard Hall, where one side leaked out the test results even though they both passed the follow up and neither received a suspension or disciplinary action of any kind.

That Nevada willingly releases results is actually the wrong way of doing it. Texas is in the right to handle it the way they did, as would be any other commission. Results should only come if consented by the involved parties, not just because some uppity journalist demands to know.

 

Disagree totally. Information gathered by a government commision should be publically available. At that point, it's only a story if someone did something wrong.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

My problem with your logic is... well, the Jones-Hall fight. Bad info leaked out, and the greater story became that Roy failed a drug test. Buried in the news was the fact that he passed the second test, that Hall's initial test was also dirty (and at a much higher level) and the possibility that the initial test may have been flawed.

And you're also wrong on what becomes the story. Dan made the story about the TX commission, when in fact HIS info is wrong. My greater problem is that he compared them to the NSAC, which is dumb because every commission handles matters differently.

All of this could've been cleared up with a call or e-mail to Tim Lueckenhoff (PResident of ABC). Any time I've had to ask Tim anything, I'm not sure more than 30 minutes have ever passed by without his offering a response. As senior writer for ESPN.com, I'm quite certain Rafael doesn't lack sources and could've found a way to get in touch with him - or anyone else that could've provided insight.

Instead, he abused his power and turned a non-event into a story on a major news outlet.

 

Roy legitimately failed a drug test though. He took a banned substance and admitted to it.

 

He Did???...When???...


REED:dunno:

 

He took Ripped Fuel.

 

Ripped Fuel wasn't on the banned list at at the time. That didn't come until like 3-4 years later if I have my math correct (Hall fight was 2000, right?)

 

You Said Roy "Took a Banned Substance & Admitted to It"...Yes, Roy Admitted to Taking Ripped Fuel, but it WASN'T a "Banned Substance" as Per the Rules of the Indiana Boxing Commission (Not Back Then, Anyways)...Fuuuuurthermore, Roy PASSED the 2nd Test, which RIGHTFULLY Brought the Initial Test Results into Question....



REED:kidcool:

 

Yep...


REED:shadow:

 

It wasn't illegal at the time but that still doesn't take away from the fact that it contained Nandralone or something to that effect, which is what he failed for.

 

Uuuuuh, the 2nd Test Came Back NEGATIVE, so LEGALLY Speaking, Roy Didn't "Fail" Anything...Neither Did Richard Hall, for that Matter...To Say that "Roy Legitimately Failed a Drug Test & ADMITTED to Taking a Banned Substance" is 100% FALSE...



REED:kidcool:

 

Hey Reed please don't let facts get in the way of the truth. I'll Holla 5000

 

they should change the name of ripped fuel to whip ass fuel if that was the reason behind the fierce ass whipping jones jr laid on hall

 

Maybe not but Ripped Fuel wasn't on the banned list so there was no reason not to take it.