What do you want? a modest candidate? Just imagine Obama saying: "Well, I can't promise you anything, but I might be able, God willing, to try to get some people to sign some laws to help you out, but cross your fingers because I don't know if I can deliver, you know? heh, so please believe in me, even if I've never done this before, I really wish with all my heart that I can get those laws signed and delivered, but you know, that's me, wishful thinking"
I seriously mean no offense when I say this ... but sometimes the truth hurts. Obama is the unintelligent man's vote. Having said that ... the choices left all are :shit: they just smell different.
I don't think McCain has any shot of winning the presidency. The same liberals that would vote for Obama if he wins the nomination, would vote for Hillary if she wins the nominations. But a lot of Republicans would rather just not vote, or vote for a 3rd party candidate, then vote for McCain, because he is pretty much a Republican in name only. So McCain isn't gonna get the support from his own party that either Clinton or Obama is gonna get. Either way, we're fucked. TFK
By the time Clinton, Obama or McCain get done, people will be begging for another Bush. It's bad now. It'll get worse. TFK
eah there's one more left. Let's go with Jeb. That's who we need. The smartest Bush of all. Can you wait.::
:laughing: You delusional blinded little sheep, . I'd rather follow cum slug droppings than have another four years of that fucken' monkey. :notallthere: :shit:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I think Bush did a great job by any means. I just don't think Obama, Clinton or McCain can, or will, do any better. None of them will get us out of Iraq, regardless of what they say. Taxes are sure to increase. Government healthcare has the potential to bankrupt the country. Nothing will be done to curb the immigration problem, in fact, it will just get worse. What exactly do you see in Clinton, Obama or McCain that makes you confident that things will get better? And don't give me that 'anyone is better then Bush' nonsense. Things are more then likely gonna go from bad to worse. TFK
You are forgetting the multitude of other reasons that make bush arguably the worst president in the history of the united states. Even before his second term there was so much scandal in his administration/cabinet/etc. Seriously, it will be extremely hard for any president to live "down" to the job the Bush has done in 8 years. The big shit may stay the same, maybe we won't get outta Iraq etc, but don't forget ALL of the other shit that came before it.
You can argue whether Bush is the worst president of all time, I have no problem with that, but to blindly hope one of the 3 Stooges is gonna do any better, just because they're not Bush, is ridiculous. I hope I'm wrong. TFK
The question is: What makes Bush better than these three (especially the DEMs)? McCain is pretty much Bush.....weak on economy, war monger etc. Obama or Clinton could only be better.
McCain is pretty much Bush? Uh...Ok. How will Obama or Clinton be better? By bankrupting the country with Universal Healthcare? By raising taxes? By giving amnesty to illegal aliens? By coming up with more gems like Obama's Global Poverty Tax? Tell me, how is Obama's Global Poverty Tax going to help America? How is forcing American taxpayers to pay $845 Billion in addition to the money we already pay in existing foreign aid, and not having any say in where that money goes, good for America? TFK
Contrary to what you might believe, Petre, I think there's a lot of truth in a lot of what you say. I just don't think it's to the sinister extreme you believe it is. But the disadvantages of an Obama or Hillary presidency? That's just obvious. TFK
I agree. An Obama , Hillary or McCain presidency right now is VERY unappealing to me. BTW ... If you think there's not a more sinister hidden side to all this , you should really watch Moyers full documentary on "The Secret Government, Constitution in Crisis". Most have a great deal of respect for Moyers and his work. <embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3505348655137118430&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
Another deception from Obama. People maligned Paul for unknowingly receiving a $500 donation from the founder of Stormfront and Paul openly saying he wouldn't return the money , why not do good with it. Obama has time and again complained about and ridiculed others about Lobbyist money and their influence on Washington ... well it would seem he's one lying hypocritical SOB once again ... You be the judge whether or not he knows where this money is coming from .... remember Paul was supposed to know where $500 from one donor came from. <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Sex9-ctI1PE&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Sex9-ctI1PE&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/guhS-_5zIHo&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/guhS-_5zIHo&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/09VKus6quMU&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/09VKus6quMU&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> Federal registered Lobbyist organizations who's non registered employees are giving generously ... Goldman Sachs -- $421,763 Ubs Ag -- $296,670 Lehman Brothers -- $250,630 National Amusements Inc -- $245,843 JP Morgan Chase & Co -- $243,848 Sidley Austin LLP -- 226,491 Citigroup Inc -- 221,578 Exelon Corp -- 221,517 Skadden, Arps Et Al -- $196,420 Jones Day -- $181,996 Harvard University -- $172,324 Citadel Investment Group -- $171,798 Time Warner -- $155,383 Morgan Stanley -- $155,196 Google Inc -- $152,802 University of California -- $143,029 Jenner & Block -- $136,565 Kirkland & Ellis -- $134,738 Wilmerhale Llp -- $119,245 Credit Suisse Group -- $118,250 No money from lobbyists huh ? The more things CHANGE , the more things stay the same ...
Results on whether or not Obama smoked some crack while having his pole smoked by LimpWrist Larry coming this week! :: <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="311" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td align="right" height="19" valign="top" width="2%"></td> <td background="images/story_header_center.jpg" width="96%"> BREAKING NEWS - Larry Sinclair Completed 4 Hour Polygraph Test Today 2/22/2008 8:45 PM </td> <td width="2%"></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="238" valign="top"> <table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top"> </td> <td class="body_main" align="left" valign="top"> Due to security concerns, we had to move the Larry Sinclair Polygraph up a few days. We conducted it in secret today and the picture to the left is from one of the two arduous polygraphs Sinclair underwent today. The process took four grueling hours, testing Sinclair's claims of sex and drug use separately and also including a drug screening to ensure that Sinclair didn't enlist any chemical assistance. The results are being confirmed by a second expert and we'll have conclusive word, along with video of the whole thing, Monday or Tuesday. Check back then for more, including video the tests and, of course, the results.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>