The problem with this Arben , is the Muslim world will look at Obama as having rejected Islam in favor of Christianity , of which Obama is also a Phoney.
Also ... let's try to remember we're talking about the people that wanted to murder cartoonists for caricatures of the Muhammad. :doh:
:nono: There in favor of the man that would have gotten our troops out of their lands immediately. <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/98uqcdvv-98"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/98uqcdvv-98" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
If you don't attack people they won't attack you. Why would the muslims thinkg obama more of an infidel, than they do their own leaders who are ass budies with the bush family?
they wont look at him as someone who abandoned Islam...just a Christian with a muslim background on ONE SIDE OF THE FAMILY!
"muslim background" what the hell does that phrase mean??? how is having muslim "background" possible? Either you are or you aren't. :dunno:
The racist fear mongering is really getting disgusting. You have got to be kidding me, Petre. You are really losing credibility here with posts like these.
I find this to be silly. First, aside from Judaism, I do not think any religions are passed through patriarchal or matriarchal lines. Second, countries which have Muslim leaders have been dealing with non-muslim countries for a very long time. Even if Obama were a Muslim I doubt the hardliners would like him because he is part of "Imperialist USA". Then again, those aren't the people we are trying to woo, it's the moderate majority of non-radical Muslims that are the target.
no explaination is needed because what you insinuated with your previous posting was downright ignorant.
you have a habit of doing this making some vague comment or statement, and then when someone replies saying they "dont get it" problem is i doubt you even know what your talking about
You're looking at it from your point of view, not from the point of view of a Muslim, or more importantly, a radical Muslim. That's why I asked for someone who knows about Islamic Law to give an opinion. It's clear none of you guys know anything about Islamic Law. Here's some of what I was able to find... http://arkansas.indymedia.org/newswire/display/22087/index.php Take that for what you will. Remember, these are the same people who went apeshit over some drawings, and make children's shows promoting killing jews. TFK
Point taken on the upbringing but most of the muslim world is much more moderate than radical islam. That's like saying all christians can be identified by their hatred of disney and willingness to kill abortion doctors. The fact of the matter is that Barack Obama, regardless of his religion, is gonna piss people off all over the world just for the simple fact that he is an American politician. Those people will be just as stupid and arrogant whether he is Muslim, Jewish, Catholic or Atheist. Hardliners and hardcore believers of every faith are mostly the minority and yet always very vocal. It's evident in America with our religious right as it is in the ME with the radical muslim contingent.
The people that heads of state end up dealing with cannot afford to cut off a US Presidents head. Do you understand how ludicrous that sounds? Obama isn't Bhutto and the US isn't down town Islamabad. You guys have a short as fuck memory. Remember when Madelaine Albright was going to be secretary of state? Remember what people said about her being a woman in her position having to deal with the middle east? Remember EVERYONE thinking she would garner no respect among the Islamic population? Guess what, she was pretty successful in her dealings with the region. In fact, it paved the way for a second woman in her position, this time with no one giving a fuck. Quite frankly, the people that hands of state deal with across the table are generally not the type to hide in caves and cut off peoples heads. If it hasn't happened to George Bush yet what the fuck makes anyone in their right mind that it will happen to Obama. Do you honestly think the Islamic world is more pissed off about Obama being the son of a Muslim than they are with George Bush and his actions? Do you? edit - honestly I think this whole muslim/obama debate is just a cheap tactic with absolutely no bearing on anything. It's a cheap shot by desperate people to discredit someone with very little dirt on them.
what's phonetap going to do with you? :doh: even someone with your challenging intellect should be able to figure out what petre meant with his previous posting. you are so anxious to disagree with phonetap on all subject matters you've become prone to kneejerk reactions without understanding what you are disagreeing about. you are quickly becoming a fascinating experiment in human psychology...
dude i was just answering the question and will they be more pissed with obama? maybe, since he isnt moving the troops anywhere and everyone with some sense knows it and im not defending bush, im just commenting on the situtation
plus wasnt i one of the only people in that thread "can a muslim be a good american" that unequivocally said yes? pretty sure i was
Obama's achilles heal illegal immigration everyone always talks about how most people want out of iraq, if you want to use that same rationale than none of obamas immigration ideas should be passed everyone wants universal healthcare and all these other entitlements id LOVE for someone to explain to me how we can achieve that with the types of policies that obama will implement as far as illegal immigration goes seriously, im not trying to be a prick, this is a huge question and id love to see how someone can "intellectualize" their way around it ::