The Daily Obamanation .... ALL ROLLED INTO ONE

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We already have a bunch of Obama threads going on, and nobody has been able to give any reason why they support Obama, except for the usual buzzwords.

TFK

 

This guy is even more of a phony than Kelly Ripa.

 

im going to go and make myself a WWBD bracklet

 

Couldn't this just have been mentioned in one of the many Obama threads already up and running? Hell you could have even mentioned it in the McCain thread and it would have been okay.

 

yes you are right

i COULD have...


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Nah, I wanna see how many Obama threads we can make until someone actually gives a tangible reason for supporting him.


TFK

 

So far you are the only one who's really given a tangible reason for not liking him so I don't expect this to happen.

 

global poverty tax
isnt going to do anything in iraq
illegal immigration
taxes
universal health care
the economy

there ya go, tangible reasons

even though ive been saying this for a while now

 

Stick to the topic. And I've never said anything racist . My wife is Mestizo ya goof.

 

Yep that's just about on the money. :bears:

 

See. You don't like being called a racist if you've never said anything racist. Maybe you'll think twice before you pull that crap with me again.

TFK

 

Or, if Obama is really a former muslim, maybe he won't be a pure Israeli shill like his predecessors, which his the only way to stop Islamic "terrorism".

 

I think he'd tell them "I'll take your heart, I'll eat your children!!! Praise be to ALLAH"

 

They are ALL PHONYS!!!!!!! I said from the very beginning that Obama was probably the smartest candidate from either party. Not that I support him,....but from what we have to now feesably choose from, he is the best candidate.

 

Thank you for posting some of what I thought was obvious about the muslim culture. :clap:

Some just don't seem to get that part about muslims , that they are very strict and unforgiving in their beliefs.

 

:: We won't go there ... I gave you props for your other posts.

Besides , I find it funny I was called a racist for "criticizing" a religion. ::

 

Surprisingly PTap does this a lot lately. :dunno:

I think his candidate is rubbing off on him. ::

 

Stick to the topic? Serious?

Keep telling yourself that, kiddo.

 

Another Obamanation ...

Very specifically , referring to the "church" Obama belongs to and yet another reason why I find most religions to be absolute crap. This one is a glaring example of that.

Is this the doctrine learned in this man's faith , who will run this country ?

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When I see and read the mission statement below I see now why Obama's wife had the thought in her head , screaming loud enough for her to verbalize that she was finally proud of America. That because she's taught irreverence for it in her church.

Since this news story was run , the "church" changed their mission statement that is in print on their website .... but certainly not their mission.

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We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.
The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

1. A congregation committed to (Black) ADORATION.
2. A congregation preaching (Black) SALVATION.
3. A congregation actively seeking (Black) RECONCILIATION.
4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
8. A congregation committed to (Black) LIBERATION.
9. A congregation committed to (Black) RESTORATION.
10. A congregation working towards (Black) ECONOMIC PARITY.

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Is this the seperatist beliefs fed into the brain of a man we'd want running a culturally diverse country?

This is precisely the type of thinking that keeps racism alive.

Visit their website for that fun experience that starts off with a flash featuring African Drums and preaching.

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NOTE: Before anyone tries to make any ridiculous racial claims , let me be clear on this. I have absolutely nothing against any RACE. I have a big problem with any religion that preaches separatist values or focuses/raises any race above another. Any true religion , if you are inclined to believe , teaches love and unity among all races and focuses on none.

I'm not going to preach to anyone here ... but anyone that truly knows the message in the bible , whether you believe it or not , knows that it was a message for all , jew and gentile alike. Meant to be taught to all and for their to be focus on none.

 

OK .. what did I say that was racist about Mexicans. Was it something about illegal aliens ? Because you do realize the 2 do not go hand in hand , right?

 

You alluded to americans needing guns to defend themselves against the people crossing the border.

Maybe we should get into the whole black issue while we're at it?

 

You have me confused with someone else my firend. ::

And please ... elaborate on the Black issue. This should be interesting.

 

Not to mention your initial defense of the racist Ron Paul newsletter

No, I brought this same thing up to you in that thread as well.

On the black issue, you put down anyone who votes for Obama because he is black, basically alluding to that being racist.

 

You are once again confused .

I said people are voting for Obama simply because he's black. THAT WAS ADMITTED TO ME in Emails and I've heard many people say it.

Making a statement of fact , is not in any way racist my friend.

Voting for someone for racial reasons alone I find foolish. I could not care less what race Obama is , that is not the issue.

 

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly WHITE and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the WHITE religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an ARIAN people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days slaves, the days of segregation, and the long night of race mixing . It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a WHITE worship service and ministries which address the WHITE Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

1. A congregation committed to WHITE ADORATION.
2. A congregation preaching WHITE SALVATION.
3. A congregation actively seeking WHITE RECONCILIATION.
4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO THE ARIAN BROTHERHOOD.
5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF ARIAN PEOPLE.
8. A congregation committed to WHITE LIBERATION.
9. A congregation committed to WHITE RESTORATION.
10. A congregation working towards WHITE ECONOMIC PARITY.

:doh:

 

And you stated that many times over in this forum. Even going so far as to say that whites voting for him as sympathy towards the black race.

Maybe a black person feels that they can relate to....gee, I don't know...another black person.

Instead, there's people putting them down for following someone of their own race.

 

Uh Oh! Obama's gonna beat the white man down! :eeeek:



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[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica]I think he's right. :clap: ... And what's with stealing my Obamanation tag? :flip:

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<!-- END --> [FONT=arial,helvetica] Erik Rush
February 21, 2007

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[FONT=arial,helvetica] How many Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who was the member of a church that professed the following credo?

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1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

[FONT=arial,helvetica]The question is rhetorical, of course. The answer is that such a candidate wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected dog catcher (apologies to America's animal rescue and public safety personnel) let alone President, because that candidate would be instantly branded a racist, among the most vile and frightening of white supremacists.

And those holding the branding irons would be 100% right.

Yet, in the "About" section of the U.S. Senate website for Barack Obama, Democratic senator from Illinois and contender for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States, it states that Obama and his family "live on Chicago's South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ."

So...?

Well, to say that the Trinity United Church of Christ (http://www.tucc.org) is afrocentric in the extreme would be a gross understatement. It's not simply afrocentric, it's African-centric. In fact, one could argue that this organization worships things African to a far greater degree than they do Christ, and gives the impression of being a separatist "church" in the same vein as do certain supremacist "white brethren" churches — or even Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.

Shocking? An overstatement? An overreaction?

One can see for oneself on the Trinity United Church website, which is replete with confirmation of what I present here. What follows is an excerpt from their Mission Statement:

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

"Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

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1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System."

[FONT=arial,helvetica]Sound familiar? Of course it is, since it's identical to the 12-point list at the beginning of this column — the one from the theoretical white supremacist candidate's church; the only difference is the substitution of the word "Black" for "White."

Trinity United Church of Christ's congregation also claims to hold to a "10-point Vision" which is similarly afrocentric, or if you will, separatist. Again, like the Nation of Islam, a white separatist church or the Branch Davidians, Trinity United more resembles a cult than a church. Only this one has as one of its most prominent members a serious contender for the White House.

And George W. Bush's born-again Christian status scares people?

These revelations, of course shed all the light we need on Obama's inscrutability; since before he announced his candidacy, both the Right and Left have commented on the lack of information vis-à-vis just who Barack Obama is and what he's about.

From The Chicago Tribune, February 06, 2007, Column: Against Middleclassness? by Rich Lowry. "Vallmer Jordan, a church member who helped draft the precepts, said they were designed to empower the black community and counter a value system imposed by whites. 'The big question mark was racism,' he said. 'Black disempowerment was an integral part of that historical value system. It became increasingly apparent to me that we black people had not developed our own value system . . . to help us overcome all we knew we had to battle.'"

"A value system imposed by whites..." Is Jordan speaking of the value system that kept families together and promoted morality, industry and integrity, or the one imposed by liberal dependency pimps since the Civil Rights Movement?

True enough that many blacks did abandon values; again, this was due to the corruption of the black clergy by white socialists and their black foremen. Trinity United seems to have thrown out the baby with the bathwater. Gravitation toward an Africanized "year-round Kwanzaa"-based pseudo-Christianity seems less of a solution than returning to the moral and social conservatism Blacks held prior to the aforementioned socialists gaining their stranglehold in the black community.

So is Obama seeking to be our first black president, or our first stealth black nationalist president? You see, were he a run-of-the-mill insincere Christian of convenience like Bill Clinton, Obama might belong to a run-of-the-mill, lukewarm, large nondescript church. But he doesn't. He belongs to a church which is (as I indicated before) blatantly afrocentric and even suggests the supremacy of Africa's descendants in America.

Granted that the Left will have no qualms about this highly questionable affiliation, but what about all of the American swing voters to whom Obama has built broad appeal by presenting himself as sort of a generic, open-minded moderate Democrat (as Bill Clinton also did, by the way)? Are they going to go for a candidate whose heart is actually closer to that of a refined Black Panther?

Trinity United clearly embraces things African above things American. The content of their website makes this undeniably clear. Aside from this tack being divisive, separatist and calls into question its adherents' identification as Americans, if they're looking for values, they — and Obama — would be better served by looking to modern political conservatives and traditional Christianity than retrograde African precepts and the Democrat Party.

Obama's affiliation with this church, if I must call it that, should be as alarming to the American voter as a Republican candidate for president belonging to the Aryan Brethren Church of Christ. Any argument against this assertion is politically-correct delusion, reverse discrimination and a hypocrisy — a very dangerous one.

[/FONT] <hr align="left" size="1" width="25%"> [FONT=arial,helvetica]Erik Rush is a contributor of social commentary to numerous print and online publications. Born in New York City in 1961, from 1975 to 1986, he worked as a studio, club, and stage musician and in biomedical research. In 1986, Erik relocated to the Southwestern U.S.

In 2002, his first novel, "The Angels Fell" was released. His nonfiction book "It's the Devil, Stupid! (Our Real Enemy and Why We Don't Talk About Him)" was published in June 2006.

Erik is also a Staff Writer for the New Media Alliance, Inc., and is acting Associate Editor and Publisher of TheRealityCheck.org. In addition to work and his family, he also participates in the Praise band and martial arts at his church and enjoys writing music, remodeling, and refinishing guitars. His entertaining and informative (if bizarre) website can be found at www.erikrush.com.[/FONT]

© Copyright 2007 by Erik Rush
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/rush/070221

 

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Obama's church doesn't support killing white people.

Their mission statement says nothing disparaging towards any other race, just the progress of their own, whose culture and history is strained.

Petre, are you afraid that Obama might be the one that gets blacks to the 'P' word.....






Progress???