:: Once again , it's bad enough preaching race PERIOD in church. But on that note ... Do you see them preaching anything about other races ? Or are they a racially centric church that preaches one race above others. Now stop trying to change the meaning of what I said by adding ALL. Go back to school and retake English.
I rest my case ... :: I'm going to start posting to you like you do me. Only in the case of my comments it will be true. :: ---------- Phonetap , your argument is meaningless garbage. You've just sunk the last nail in that coffin by bringing absolutely nothing to the table for the last 10 posts because you cannot formulate an intelligent opinion on the subject. Your arguments are pure :shit:
Just like if there was a blatantly racist news letter that was under Obama's name you would be having a field day, right?
Or admit that you have a subconscious fear of Black progress Please show me any proof that shows that they preach one race above all others.
Obama has had many crooked dealings , hell he may have smoked crack with Larry Sinclair while larry smokes Obama's pole :: There's so much to use on Obama I can't stay on that one forever. Obama had ties to a radical supposedly "terrorist" organization , the Weathermen whom he openly acknowledges and supports as friends . Had Paul had a history of any kind like Obama's or stood on such a weak smokescreen of a campaign that is akin to a motivational seminar , I would never have supported him. Were there any substance to the claim made on Paul I'd have dropped him in a minute and once again walked away from any hope in this crooked political system.
Just found this gem on their website ... :: Fuck ... if this were Paul's church , you guys would be crucifying him. :: =============== <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tbody><tr><td style="padding-left: 15px;">Talking Points<!-- InstanceEndEditable --></td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding: 15px;" valign="top"><!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="main" --> Dr. Wright’s talking points (3.1.7) for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and the Black Value System (in response to Erik Rush’s comments (2.28.07) on the Hannity and Colmes show): • One of the biggest gaps in knowledge that causes the kind of ignorance that you hear spouted by this man [Erik Rush] and those like him, has to do with the fact that these persons are completely ignorant when it comes to the Black religious tradition. The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology. • Black theology is one of the many theologies in the Americas that became popular during the liberation theology movement. They include Hispanic theology, Native American theology, Asian theology and Womanist theology. • I use the word “systematized†because Black liberation theology was in existence long before Dr. Cone’s book. It originates in the days of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. It was systematized and published by theologians, Old Testament scholars, New Testament scholars, ethicists, church historians, and historians of religion such as Dr. James Cone, Dr. Cain Hope Felder, Dr. Gayraud Wilmore, Dr. Jacqueline Grant, Dr. Kelley Brown Douglas, Dr. Renita Weems, Dr. Katie Cannon, Dr. Dwight Hopkins, Dr. Linda Thomas, and Dr. Randall Bailey. • These scholars, who write in various disciplines, also include seminary presidents like Dr. John Kinney and professors of Hebrew Bible, like Dr. Jerome Ross. Black liberation theology defines Africans and African Americans as subjects – not the objects which colonizers and oppressors have consistently defined “others†as. • We [African Americans] were always seen as objects. When we started defining ourselves, it scared those who try to control others by naming them and defining them for them; Oppressors do not like “others†defining themselves. • To have a church whose theological perspective starts from the vantage point of Black liberation theology being its center, is not to say that African or African American people are superior to any one else. • African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior. • There is more than one center from which to view the world. In the words of Dr. Janice Hale, “Difference does not mean deficience.†It is from this vantage point that Black liberation theology speaks. • Systematized Black liberation theology is 40 years old. Scholars of African and African American religious history show that Black liberation theology, however, has been in existence for 400 years. It is found in the songs, the sermons, the testimonies and the oral literature of Africans throughout the Diaspora. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Jesus H Christ .... Did anyone say they did ? :doh: :: Having said that ... the above "Talking Points" kind of does ... ::
• To have a church whose theological perspective starts from the vantage point of Black liberation theology being its center, is not to say that African or African American people are superior to any one else. • African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior.
The million dollar question here , that everyone seems to be missing is .... Is this the type of church and faith the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should belong and subscribe to ? If this were Paul's I would be bashing him BIGTIME.
(Petre puts on his thinking cap and fires back with a PhoneTapism) I'm rubber and you're glue , what ever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. :tease:
Black schools, black churches, etc., is all a reaction to blacks not being allowed into white schools or churches until more recently then most people like to admit. Goddamn I hate being an apologist but all talk of "double standard" is bullshit. Anybody read any of the shit coming out of Morman, Catholic, Southern White Baptist, Scientologist, Jewish etc, etc, etc, theology. ..........and any talk of what a "true christian" is, is bollocks. Anybody who tries to define what a "true christian" should be, is not to be trusted themselves. Mission statement????....................GTFOH with that shit. A couple months ago "racist" America was supposed to be too close-minded to vote for a black man with supposed Muslim ties for President. Now that it's getting closer to reality he's suddenly turned into a combination of Louis Farrakhan and Damien from The Omen. Fucking insane!!! :doh:
WOW ... some progress .... now put on your thinking cap , and compare it to your claim. Then when you're done with that , think about the actual meaning of the entire quote and show where it's wrong.
All I'm asking is for you to show me where they preach one race above all others, just like you said. You haven't done that. It's just more 'fear the blacks' from you.