you didn't answer the question...phonetap isn't interested in what paul has voted against, phonetap wants to know what legislation has he gotten passed that has improved the lives of the citizens of the united states. AGAIN, tell phonetap what legislation ron paul has gotten through congress that would make him an effective president of the united states. don't come back with bullshit about his stances or what he voted against...what has he done to improve your life and the lives of americans? list ACCOMPLISHMENTS!!! why is this so hard for you???
If you can't understand what I posted , then that's too bad for you. I understand your tactic , it's weak and maniputative. What you're trying to do is change the issue with regard to Obama who does nothing but talk and present fairytail policies to sell the people on himself. A man that not only has a crooked past , but hires crooks to help him in the present. Voting for the President is a vote for the man himself. It's a vote of trust . It's a vote on their policies. A vote on how confident you can be in that person that they'll do what's right for the PEOPLE. The fact that Paul has fought Congress , is a great thing ... he is not a company man. In case you haven't been paying attention , Congress has been making a mess of things and he's proven them wrong time and again. Like a fool you want to vote for another company man and hope for a different outcome. I thought you were smarter than that . I see I may be wrong. AND once again ... in an effort to try to get focus away from Obama ... don't think that everyone can't see that you still cannot give a good reason to vote for Obama , unlike Paul supporters that could literally give you a 100 page thesis on reasons to support Paul.
Summing up Obama's campaign in satire ... :clap: What's most funny though , is all the suckers buying it. ---------------- Obama heals hundreds AUSTIN — Ginny McCallum, 43, who has been confined to a wheelchair for much of her adult life, came to hear presidential candidate Barack Obama speak at the University of Texas. Afterward she found herself in a wheelchair access breezeway as Obama and his entourage exited the arena. The candidate spotted her, came over, grabbed her hand and pulled her up. She found herself standing for the first time in eleven years. "He smiled at me and said, ‘Yes, you can,’" she says. "I was so stunned I didn’t know what to do." McCallum is among hundreds of people who say they have been healed by the Democratic candidate, in one of the most surprising and little-acknowledged aspects of his campaign. Reporters have shied away from the story, chalking it up to "Obama-mania" and people’s feelings of elation. "We don’t talk about it a lot, but yeah, it does happen," says one staffer who says he has seen multiple people healed on a rope line. "We don’t know exactly how or why it’s happening, and the Senator won’t talk about it. He usually insists that people keep it quiet and just report it to their pastor or priest." Greeting supporters after a rousing speech in Houston, Obama stepped into the dense crowd and spontaneously began touching people: a legally blind woman, a man deaf in one ear, a cancer sufferer and a lame man. "Yes, you can," Obama said as he laid hands on afflicted bodies. The people’s reactions were so joyous as to be almost frightening. They jumped and shouted and wept. Before they could thank or embrace the candidate he was well down the rope line healing others. Their excitement was lost in the general din of the crowd. Aides acknowledge that the phenomenon is occurring with greater frequency. "His power goes beyond simple inspiration," says one aide. "There is something developing here that I’m not sure any of us fully understands." They say Obama has told them privately that his time has not yet come, so it would be inappropriate to talk about the healings right now. He says he will wait until the convention to speak publicly about the "special calling" he believes he has to lead the country. They do expect him to start alluding to "the providential nature of what is happening on the campaign trail" in an upcoming address, mostly because word is getting around. People have begun bringing relatives by the score to campaign events in hopes of a healing touch. "It’s not the speeches that are drawing people anymore, as good as they are," says a senior staff member. "It’s people wanting to get better, and wanting their friends and relatives to get better. It’s the belief that there’s something more here." •
you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed are you? lets try this again...how has ron paul made life better for americans? how long has be been a member of congress? there should be a record there but unfortunately, you can't answer this because there is nothing to say. when you vote for a person to be president of the united states you not only vote for someone you trust and their policy stances but their ability to get shit done. ron paul knows where he stands on various issues but he hasn't proven the ability to get shit done or get legislation passed that improves the lives of americans. any idiot can sit on the sidelines criticizing government but only the exceptional can change lives by getting shit done. ron paul doesn't fit that criterea...he's had more than enough time in congress to make a tangible and substantive impact but he hasn't. why? no one in washington listens to the man so how the hell would he all of a sudden get things done as president of the united states? ron paul has about as much pull (or powers of persuasion) in congress as you do on this forum...NONE :shit: . ron paul supporters like yourself aren't realist, you are nothing but self-serving idealogues with delusions of grandeur. so again, what has ron paul done, not what is he against or what he is for, what has he done?
dsimon writes: Yu know when any person is put under a microscope they will be far from perfect, and yes certain things come out. We are all human and we all have foibles that the funny kid and the bully can use to tease us, that is life. What I see is this: OBama is right, thats the bottom line. EVerybody knows that the Bush administration was a disaster. The Clintons are another political dynasty that has shown a callous disregard for people as well. Ohio and the stupid Latino's in Texas fall for the bullying they are fools. If Clinton was put under the same micriscope the only difference is she would... hell she did!.... cry foul. Clinton has succedded in slinging a lot of mud and making it stick like LBJ did. Great job. At the end of the day guess what? both candidates have about the same level of experience and the difference is that Hillary helped vote in bills that killed the people she claims to support. Obama needs to access his black inner child, take the gloves off and shut this bitch up so nobody doubts he can fight for himself. I hope he does. Somoene needs to bury the Clintons along with the Bushs before this country belongs entirely to the special interests like Nafta corporations, credit card companies (who sponsered the bankrupcy legislation) and the medical corporations. Obama does not need a lot of experience, just the right attitude to be willing to work with others. What the fuck did Bush's experience do? It created a war. Give the guy a chance and lets hope he hoits the ghetto button and wipes Hillary out for all of our sake. Let me have five minutes with Obama!! :blobbox: Obama take the godamn gloves off and get tough. This is a street fight brother, not the square circle.
My thoughts exactly , as you continue to try to play baby games and avoid any tangible reason to vote for Obama.
I don't always agree with phonetap, but you have failed to answer his question on this one. All this talk about Obama is just hope and you can't answer what Ron Paul has actually accomplished. If Ron Paul hasn't accomplished anything of substance then he's the same "all words no action" that you accuse Obama of being.
exactly...they want to jump on the what has obama accomplished bandwagon but can't answer that question about their own guy. hypocrisy in it's purest forum...
No ... I actually answered it about 5 posts ago when he first tried to divert attention away from a question that has been asked 100's of times now on this forum that he fails to answer. Let me refresh you and Taps faulty memories ... As for what Paul HAS accomplished , he's accomplished having one of the most consistent and blemish free careers in congress . He's bucked a fucked system that has failed the people his entire career. He's been proven right 100's of times with his voting record and his introduction of numerous bills that hindsight shows us we'd have been better off if they were passed. He's been given the highest ratings across the board for his stance on taxes , economics , constitution and more. He's shown unwavering fortitude in the principles he's sold to the people during his campaign while both living and presenting to the people REAL solutions and not fluff and bluff. Even his rival McCain has labeled him the most honest man in Congress. Now ... what has Obama done again? We know he's had lot's of dealings with criminals over the years. He hired a crook as a finance manager. He belongs to a seperatist African Centric Church that teaches Black Power. He was an admitted drug user. He admits friendship and association with members of the Weathermen , a terrorist organization. His policies are shit. He want's to give more US Tax dollars to foreign entities. He wants to dismantle the second amendment. He wants to give all kinds of benefits to Illegals at the US tax payers expense .... Should I go on or should we continue this circle jerk while you and Tap avoid giving any substantive reason to vote for Obama ?
you still haven't answered the question. can't find anything huh? :laughing: aren't you are the professor of cut & pasteology...you actually can't find what you're looking for online, so you continually dance around the specific question trying desperately to bring it back to obama. brief lesson for you...when you look back throughout history the truly great leaders ALL shared one common denominator: the ability to influence people into action. and action is the only way things every get done. personally phonetap admires a few of ron pauls political stances but the man doesn't have the ability to influence people into action that's why he's never sponsored and passed one single major piece of legislation in all of his years in congress. if phonetap is wrong here is your opportunity to correct him. now answer the question...NOT the way you want to answer it but properly. phonetap has asked you two questions over the past couple days...what is ron pauls chruch and what has he accomplished legislatively and you can't answer a single one of them. wait until you see what phonetap ask you tomorrow. it'll really chrun that soft mellon you call a brain...:laughing: oh yea...answer the question.
PetreTG, Ron Paul's newpaper has published racist articles under his name. If you're going to "diss" Obama for attending that church then you've got to be consistent and DISS Ron Paul for the Articles coming out of the paper under his name....
Not to mention the fact that they won't release the name of the person who supposedly wrote it. That alone is pretty suspect.
All those traits you mentioned about Ron Paul are ones that constitute a 'lame duck' president. One who can't get anything done, and time just goes by with no real progress. Character is one thing. And Paul has his good intentions, but if you can't get anything done, then you're not worth being a congressman, let alone a president.
Holy crap! I've been asking for weeks, in about a dozen threads, for one of you Obama supporters to give me a tangible reason why he gets your support, without using buzzwords, and not one of you has come close to doing it. And you're gonna bitch out Petre over semantics? Pathetic. TFK
even when you name pauls accomplishments they arent happy paul brings forth more legislation every year than probably any other member of congress not only can obama supporters not give any reason for supporting him other than those buzzwords, they dont even have some legitimate defense for some of his policies how about answering the question with an answer, not another question phonetap likes to pull this type of shit: q: what has obama done? a: tell me something ron paul has done it doesnt even make sense
I did ... I even gave you what you wanted and you're too stupid to see it. I just didn't give it to you the way you wanted it.
I keep trying to explain that to them ... but Ptap seems more interested in circle jerking and avoiding the truth. Much like his man Obama will do.
except for the fact that the mans not done one racist thing in his life, nor have you ever heard him say anything racist plus hes delivered probably hundreds of babies to african american women, alot of them probably poor forget all that though, some ridiculous article came out, lets ride that thing till the fucken wheels fall off
I support Obama because he is the only one that has crossover appeal and could unify the nation. It is something I feel is most important in this nation, and no other candidate has shown that capability.
shit or get off the pot hes only making himself look stupid and irrational you cant even have a legitimate debate without someone claiming your evil, greedy, racist, or just dont care about people i guess freedom is a radical idea now
Not true Arben. Although it would only happen now via a miracle ... were Ron Paul elected president , not only has he proven that he will do what he says (Or at the very least try with great fortitude) but as THE PRESIDENT of the United States of America .... Congress and the people would have to listen to him. No more marginalizing and he would have the WORLD STAGE to push his agenda. Look at what Bush accomplished and just about everyone was against him in the end with his own party distancing themselves from him and STILL he got his way. Put Paul before the people and give them a chance to learn what he's teaching and see just how right he's been time and again , and the MOB would make sure Congresses party time came to an end. THAT is why "they" fear Ron Paul so much and why it was so important to marginalize him. Because the party would have come to an end.
I love it when Paul supporters shout out his history delivering babies. As if that's supposed to make him more compassionate or something. He is showing support towards a racist, it's plain and simple. He could easily release the guy's name and rid himself of that issue. But he won't, and that's suspect. Obama had no problem denouncing Minister Farrakhan's actions and views during a very public debate.
I think he has shown this throughout the primaries, and you will see it in the general election as well.
Exactly ... not to mention it's 20 years old and completely out of any character anyone attributes to the man that knows him . THAT is there one BIG THING on Paul ... A letter someone else wrote. How sad.