:: we gave you an answer, you just refuse to accept it and a man of action paul probably brings up more substantial legislation in a week than obama has his whole career edit: and yeah obama took some action, he said "i denounce him", thats action right there, LOL if you consider words action then obama is fucken rambo if you consider putting forth substantiative legislation action, then paul is your man
me, petre, paul himself what more do you need? jesus h christ the man says it wasnt him, what more can he do yet obama says he'll do this and that and you fucken gobble up every word atleast paul has a voting record and a legislative record that actually shows he IS a man of action wtf has obama done except make promises he has no intention of keeping (iraq and NAFTA), yet i havent heard a fucken peep about that edit: LOL, the american voters dont even know who they want for a democratic nominee, let alone the presidency, your making it sound like hes blowing hillary away, he only leads by a little over 100 delegates and is behind in superdels
I'll sum it up Paul is the best Politician in history and everyone agrees that's why he is not even in the running to be prez
ok...slapnuts, here is some bait for you...petre style: Lugar-Obama Nonproliferation Legislation Signed into Law by the President Thursday, January 11, 2007 Printable Format FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Lugar Contact: Andy Fisher, 202-224-2079, andy_fisher@lugar.senate.gov, http:// lugar.senate.gov Obama Contact: Tommy Vietor, 202-228-5511, tommy_vietor@obama.senate.gov, http://obama.senate.gov Date: January 11, 2007 Lugar-Obama Nonproliferation Legislation Signed into Law by the President WASHINGTON – President Bush today signed the Lugar-Obama proliferation and threat reduction initiative into law. Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction. "The United States should do more to eliminate conventional weapons stockpiles and assist other nations in detecting and interdicting weapons of mass destruction. We believe that these functions are underfunded, fragmented and in need of high-level support," said Lugar, Republican leader of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. "The Lugar-Obama initiative will help other nations find and eliminate conventional weapons that have been used against our own soldiers in Iraq and sought by terrorists all over the world," said Obama. "The Nunn-Lugar program has effectively disposed of thousands of weapons of mass destruction, but we must do far more to keep deadly conventional weapons like anti-aircraft missiles out of the hands of terrorists." "We want to ensure that our government has the capacity to deal quickly with vulnerable stockpiles of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles, otherwise known as Man-Portable Air-Defense Systems (MANPADS). Such weapons could be used by terrorists to attack commercial airliners, military installations and government facilities here at home and abroad. Al Qaeda reportedly has attempted to acquire MANPADS on a number of occasions," said Lugar. The Lugar-Obama initiative would energize the U.S. program against unsecured, lightweight anti-aircraft missiles and other conventional weapons. There may be as many as 750,000 man-portable air defense systems in arsenals worldwide, and the State Department estimates that more than 40 civilian aircraft have been hit by such weapons since the 1970s. In addition, loose stocks of small arms and other weapons help fuel civil wars in Africa and elsewhere and provide the means for attacks on peacekeepers and aid workers seeking to stabilize war-torn societies. In Iraq, unsecured stockpiles of artillery shells and ammunition have been reconfigured into improvised explosive devices (IEDs) that have become an effective weapon for insurgents. "Lugar-Obama would also strengthen the ability of America's allies to detect and interdict illegal shipments of weapons and materials of mass destruction, a critical step in securing these weapons before they ever fall into the hands of terrorists that has not been a focus of current anti-terrorism efforts," Obama said. Lugar and Obama traveled together to Russia, Ukraine and Azerbaijan in August 2005 to oversee a number of Nunn-Lugar projects. In Ukraine they saw a conventional weapons facility that is typical of the focus of the new legislation. The Lugar-Obama initiative is modeled after the Nunn-Lugar program that focuses on weapons of mass destruction in the former Soviet Union. Lugar and former Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA) authored the program in 1991. It has provided U.S. funding and expertise to help the former Soviet Union safeguard and dismantle its enormous stockpiles of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, related materials, and delivery systems. Among many accomplishments, the program has deactivated 7,000 nuclear warheads and reemployed 58,000 scientists in peaceful research. Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan are nuclear weapons free as a result of cooperative efforts under the Nunn-Lugar program. They otherwise would be the world's the third, fourth and eighth largest nuclear weapons powers, respectively. ---------------------------------------------------------- now...post some or any legistation that ron paul sponsored that was passed through congres, the senate and signed into law by the president of the united states. tag, your it. :laughing:
The Lugar-Obama initiative is modeled after the Nunn-Lugar program that focuses on weapons of mass destruction in the former Soviet Union. Lugar and former Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA) authored the program in 1991. :: kinda like some of his speeches
You haven't refuted anything. You can't refute what the people want. You can't deny that Obama has shown the crossover appeal, because the results speak for themself. The voters are speaking. His message has crossed boundaries, and he has proven that he is the one that unites Americans. edit: LOL, for someone who supports Paul, It's pretty stupid to joke about the voters that Obama has managed to bring in.
how is that a joke, its the simple truth the democratic nomination isnt even over obama just lost 3 out of 4 in case you missed it and clinton DOES have more superdels popular vote is pretty much even maybe your confused
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tick, tock....tick, tock....tick, tock... the clock is ticking and still no legislative accomplishments have been posted for ron paul...like your candidate, you guys are all talk, no action. :laughing:
Yep ... but I have to go back to my original conclusion and really stop wasting my time. People can be easily fooled by words. When they're told what they want to hear , they forget what they need to hear and simply get fooled once again. Obama is the weak minded vote . His supporters cannot and do not understand why they vote for him. He's just the man that makes them feel good and says what they want to hear. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN. Empty words with no plan of action. Reminds me of going to church and listening to an uplifting sermon by a preacher who barely knows the bible and never opens one. Paul was the intelligent man's vote. MANY here would have voted for him. Unfortunately , they , like most bought the "he can't win so I don't want to waste my vote" trick. Not realizing they will be wasting probably the most important vote of our lifetime on another shyster who's in the club. The club that really doesn't give a fuck about the people ... and when it's all over , then they finally realize "FUCK , I got fooled again" :doh:
The guy who wasn't supposed to come close to Hillary is beating her, and is on track to get the election barring any back room shennanigans from the Clintons. Like I said. The results speak for themself. He has shown more ability to unite America than any other candidate. Meanwhile, Ron Paul can't even get America to notice him.
The funny thing is that I remember about 3-4 years ago, PetreTG was teh FIRST PERSON on this site to draw everyone's attention to Obama...saying that he was a great man with tremendous potential and it'll be nice to see him as the first black president. Now that this same man has a realistic chance of achieving exactly this, something has changed. Why? opcorn:
Arben and phonetap. What would you guys do if he Florida and Michigan are allowed to vote again? And what would you guys say if Obama wins the popular vote but the Super Dels decide Clinton?
this pretty much sums up you ron paul supporters...ron paul gives good lectures but never follows through with tangible results. vote down everything, propose and pass nothing...:laughing:
:: According to Larry Sinclair that was about 9 years ago. Add a white boy smoking Obama's pole and you got it. And seeing as how Obama admittedly befriends the Weathermen who have admitted some homosexual greekesque behavior ... I'm not so sure it's a big stretch.
My theory on the matter is that Petre's black wife recently left him for some young black stud and took half his money.... ::
ron paul: sponsored: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery co-sponsored: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery thats just for the 108th congress btw im sure if you look at the type of legislation both work on youll see a stark difference, pauls actually makes a difference while obama sponsors shit like global poverty act fucken links dont work, sorry, ill try again
I think you've been smoking crack with Obama. Obama has been a running joke for most of the people of Illinois because he didn't do jack shit . As a matter of fact , had it not been for the fact that Ryan turned out to be "crookeder" than Obama and ran one of the worst campaigns in history , Obama may have never been elected at all. ::
They're never going to get it. To busy being hypnotized. You'll notice that none STILL can give reason for Obama beyond he's a great public speaker. They're like the girls swooning over him like idiots with nothing intelligent to say.
http://www.house.gov/paul/legis/welcome.htm there, that will give you what he has sponsored and cosponsored for both the 107th and 108th congress edit: for those too lazy to look in the 107th congress he sponsored 68 things and co-sponsored 323 things in the 108th congress hes sponsored 76 things and cosponsored 354 things good enough? now please explain how obama is gonna fix the healthcare system, how hes gonna fix soc sec, wtf the deal is with the global poverty act, wtf is the deal with the whole iraq thing