The Daily Obamanation .... ALL ROLLED INTO ONE

racism is not an act

racism is an ideology

edit: you dont arrest people for racism, you arrest them for whatever crime they did

 

You don't agree with racism against anyone, but you sure went out of your way to justify Farakhan's racism.

TFK

 

hate is hate bro

who cares what the reason is

you cant punish people for what they are thinking

 

Do you really believe that?

 

if i kill you because your black is that a worse crime than if i kill someone because i want their money? and should it have a heavier punishment?

 

If I kill someone because they killed my wife, vs killing someone because I was jealous of their good looks....do you think those two crimes are equivalent?

 

if its in self defense then no

if you just kill the person for revenge, then yes

keeping all the emotions out of it, you feel bad for the guy whos wife got killed but you cant just go and kill someone yourself

 

But ethically...are the two crimes equivalent?

Secondly...pumping up black pride CAN be viewed as self defense. Teh best form of defense is attack...and blacks wouldn't feel the need to defend themselves if they weren't first attacked.

Now times have changed (obama being on teh verge of teh presidency is testament to that) but people like Farrakhan firing back at the same people that would have seen him as sub human in his youth is only a natural reaction.

 

By the way Atomicdogg, I appreciate the discussion and you've really impressed me recently with your arguments and conduct on this and the other threads. It's a pleasure debating with you,

 

its easier to justify killing someone if they killed your wife

in the end though you still killed a man, just as you would have in the other scenario

the only difference is your thought process

as for the other part of your post?? WHAT??

thats the problem with racism, a couple of people treat you bad and you lash out at the group

if you didnt think of people as groups we wouldnt have racism, it wouldnt be "those white guys" or "those black guys" or whatever

itd be just "those guys"

 

I think Slystaff did a pretty good job of exposing his racism today. His post justifying Farakhan's racism, and racism against whites in general, is sure to come back to haunt him.

He's probably gonna spend so much time trying to backpedal out of his racism, that he'll never give me a tangible reason to vote for Obama.


TFK

 

I still don't understand why Farrakhan is an issue when Obama publicly denounced him.

 

Because the U.S. media is racist.

Hence the whole trying to portray him as a muslim (even though there is no such thing as "muslim wardrobe"

If he is black, he has to be muslim right.

 

No doubt, what kind of person cries against racism and then defends a person for the same actions just because he is black? It just doesn't make any sense, his accent fooled me ::

 

I see it the same way as if you heard Hillary getting support from David Duke. It would be newsworthy just like this is.

 

all sorts of problems for obama

first his foreign policy advisor calls hillary a "monster" and has to resign, but worse theres some reports that what obama is saying on the campaign trail about iraq isnt what his advisors are saying to overseas leaders

apparently obama has no intention of getting the troops out like he says he does

saw this on msnbc news this morning

 

so you'd rather Hillary atomic? or McCain?

 

McCain is such a joke. Talk about somebody who just does NOT look presidential. Lol... The guy had trouble walking down the steps when Bush endorsed him.


Just another right wing war monger who wants tax cuts for the rich. Surely the people have learned their lesson with Dubya, right???....


Lets all hope and pray...

 

Sadly Americans never learn. They claimed they learned from the first Bush term and then what did the idiots do? Vote him in again!

At least the first time more americans actually voted for Gore, and so they could blame the Electoral College system but what's the excuse for 2004?::

McCain will beat Clinton (hopefully) or Obama (which would be a real shame) and the republicans will get a 3rd consecutive term making it 6 terms out of the last 8!

 

The guys campaign is a weak as he is.

They made damn sure the weakest possible opponent would be there to stay out of the Dems way.

Next stop ... the Dems completely dismantle the constitution. Freedom of speach and the right to bear arms will be first on the chopping block.

 

yeah cause I can't think of a single group more against free speech than the liberals that wrote it into our constitution:doh:

 

Reasons to vote for Obama:

• Universal healthcare without a universal mandate: best solution possible
• End the war in Iraq
• End the generous tax cuts for the rich and assist the middle class
• Education reform: giving a government grant (for want of a better way of putting it) in return for country service
• Good judgement and the courage to express it (the war in Iraq when the concept was popular)
• Intelligence
• The Ability to reach out to all types of Americans, regardless of race, creed, political affiliation: Crossover appeal
• Due to his oratory talents, likability, stature and charm will be an asset to the US in terms of foreign relations.

 

• Universal bankruptcy for the American Economy , lower standard of healthcare , worst solution possible for our current economic plight.
• By not showing up to vote ?
• With the largest budget of all candidates and new taxes like Global Tax ?
• Good judgment , you mean like hiring criminals for his campaign finance, going to a very racially charged church that honors Farrakhan , doing business with the likes of Rezko, Allying himself with members of the Weathermen ... Good judgment ???
• See above for examples of lack of intelligent planning and poor intelligence in judgment.
• The last 2 can be summed up by saying .... he makes my coochie wet. :kick:

 

his UHC plan does have mandates btw
edit: and he isnt ending anything in iraq

 

out of those 2

mccain

 

John Kerry.

 

I think Obama is more LIKELY to end the war in Iraq than McCain would be.